Posted on 01/25/2016 12:30:14 AM PST by TigerClaws
In a last dash, final "hail mary" attempt to end a Donald Trump run for the White House once and for all, the National Review has decided to eviscerate the Republican front runner on the basis that he is not a conservative.
It will not work.
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Please define "true Conservativism".
What's the position of "true Conservatives" on the "global economy"? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on "international law"? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on NAFTA? on TPP? on Medicare? on the Clean Air Act? on the Civil Rights Act of 1964? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on the authority of the Supreme Court to amend the Federal Constitution?
Do "true Conservatives" honor Malcom X more or less than Martin Luther King, and why?
What, exactly, do "true Conservatives" want to conserve?
What's the essential issue? Please read my #61. The term "conservative" has become meaningless.
You're about half way there.
The easiest way to keep working-class whites voting for ANY Democrat is to keep nominating Republicans devoted to destroying their children's futures.
“Some of us are sick and tired of the bullying.”
NR collected 22 writers and aimed their collective fire at Trump. Is that not bullying?
Why has NR never done the same for Obama and his policies?
Here’s the bottom line.....who are these 22 National review Magazine, folks who ponitificate ranting, but, do nothing to tell me and millions of other American voters, who to vote for!!! They stood by and let POTUS Obama take step after step, negative action, after negative action, to destroy the American Republic...and, they stood by, not only doing nothing.....but, helping abet his SATAN cause!!!
My bottom line....I am supporting and voting for Donald J. Trump in the Florida primary and the general election. GO DONALD TRUMP!!!
“He is the least conservative of the 12 still in the race.”
Based on what criteria? Based on whose criteria?
NR says deportation of illegals is a dumb policy. Is that a conservative position?
NR is for any trade agreement that de-industrializes the United States. Is that a conservative position?
Because his primary base of supporters are died in the wool DUmocrats who lack a conservative core. That is also why no progressive will attack Trump... He’s one of them.
“Who knows where he stands on a myriad of other issues and you certainly don’t.”
Does that include you?
I support him because of the stands on the issues he talks about. Do you think immigration would be an issue if it were not for him. Cruz was dragged kicking and screaming into the fight on that, and adopted Trump’s position.
The British Parliament went to the absurd length to debate on whether or not to allow Trump into England. Notice, they did not debate the question over Cruz.
Oh, allow me to revise and extend my remarks.
What's the position of "true Conservatives" on how the people of other races, other nations, and other religions should live? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on how shura councils in Helmand Province, Afghanistan should organize girl's education? What's the position of "true Conservatives" on whether or not Arab Sunni Muslims (who live in Arabia) should be permitted to practice Shariah and to govern themselves as they wish? Please say why, and what "true Conservatives" are prepared to do about it.
What's the position of "true Conservatives" on whether or not to pay for medical care of people over 65 without a dollar limit, driven only by need and possible benefit? What's the position of "true Conservatives" about how to raise the trillions of dollars in government revenue to pay for that?
What's the position of "true Conservatives" about the pensions promised under the form of contracts to tens of millions of state and Federal workers, none of which are funded in a manner to allow them to be paid?
There's no such thing as "true Conservatism". There are conservatives, but they are leaderless and at odds with each other over fundamentals.
Sorry, can't agree. The term Conservative will always have a meaning and it will always be the same because it is a set of timeless values that do not shift in the political winds. As Mark Levin says. Conservatism is the true antidote to tyranny.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Trump obviously doesn't have a clue. Its just not possible for someone with such crippled and immature political perspectives to make it to the White House.
I've got no solutions to this mess. The Trump train can't be stopped. Sanders will win the Democrat nomination and most likely the Presidency. Sadly, its all over already. A terrible outcome, but doesn't look to me like there is anything anyone can do to change it.
After the election, if you can come back here and tell me I was wrong, then I'll be very happy to receive that news. There's a snowball's chance in hell its going to happen.
“Discussing facts w/Trump voters (and I am being polite) is a waste of time.”
Really?
Try discussing the FACTS of Cruz voting for TPA and the Corker bill, or calling for a 500% increase in the H-1B visas, or calling for an increase in immigration.
I have never seen a Cruz supporter even acknowledge those FACTS, much less discuss them. You bring them up and they are “explained” by accusing Trump of being pro-abortion, loves Kelo decision, etc.
Restore our borders, restore our manufacturing sector, increase exploitation of our natural resources, cut 15% of the Federal budget just to show we can.
After that, we can work out our disagreements about paying doctor bills and who uses what bathrooms among ourselves.
“He nor you know what that means.”
Just how many billions of dollars have you accrued in YOUR lifetime?
When you confront them about TPP/TPA or immigration issues that Cruz was wrong about (e.g.: increasing H1Bs), they say that its okay and that he evolved, nothing to see here.
Not EVERY issue has a defined conservative viewpoint. What’s the conservative view on what movie should win the Oscars this year? Conservatism is a set of broader principles, it’s up to us to debate how it applies to each issue.
You’re just in pure logical fallacy mode, the oldest fallacy in the book, the one that says if something doesn’t work 100% of the time, then you’ll throw it out completely.
One thing I can assure you though, no true conservative thinks the Supreme Court can amend the Constitution.
“Yeah, why does Trump the Magnificent use eminent domain and bankruptcy to stick it to the rest of us?”
“us”???
You have had business dealings with Trump?
The investors that got burned in Trump’s four bankruptcies were not of the “us” category.
You sound like one of those Wall Street protesters.
Well, glad you think so.
I was the Board Chairman of a wonderful private Christian school for five years. The biggest challenge of keeping it afloat was the fact that parents wanted to engage in constant warfare over which teacher, which administrator, which donor, which family, which student was or wasn't "a Christian". It turned out that "Christian" had dozens of idiosyncratic definitions, all mutually exclusive, and all of which the definer(s) were quite certain constituted revelation.
"Conservative" may always have the same meaning, but if nobody agrees on what it is, it won't be going anywhere.
Why, then, do they not resist?
You've just shown me something about yourself...
Trump picked that scenario out to show the unfounded types of accusations people like you are accusing Trump of...Trump said people like you claim we are so far under Trump's trance that he could stand in the street and shoot someone and we would still support him...
You have completely misrepresented what Trump said...I now don't doubt that everything you say about Trump is a misrepresentation...Your accusations against Trump have no credibility...Do you work for Jeb Bush??? I don't believe Cruz would stoop that low to have you in his employ...
Well maybe he would...He just put out an ad with false accusations against Trump...
You asked:
“As a principled conservative do you agree with Ted tweeting a lie?”
The explanation was:
“Take a Valium because you are insane.”
Answer explains itself.
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