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To: ClearCase_guy
I had heard that in 2008, the Obama people in Iowa were extremely aggressive and immovable during caucus discussions. They did well in Iowa that year by basically being jerks.

So how does that work exactly? Let's say you are a Trump supporter showing up to caucus and the Cruz people are "being aggressive and immovable". What's to stop you from ignoring them and walking over to stand in the Trump circle?

71 posted on 01/24/2016 10:55:24 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
So how does that work exactly? Let's say you are a Trump supporter showing up to caucus and the Cruz people are "being aggressive and immovable". What's to stop you from ignoring them and walking over to stand in the Trump circle?

IIRC, an Iowan on here who is heavily involved in the caucusing process pointed out the other day that the GOP doesn't hold their caucuses the same way as the Democrats.

The GOPers basically listen to speeches and then cast secret ballots. The Democrats cluster into groups and aggressively go after anyone not in their circle until the bell rings.

73 posted on 01/24/2016 10:59:10 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: SamAdams76
Well, I basically agree. Speaking for myself, I'm pretty immune to peer pressure. I don't care what anyone says about anything. I can be persuaded by logic, but other than that it's just a waste of the other person's time.

My recollection from 2008 is that some folks were blatantly using racism as a method to "persuade" people to support Obama. "If you go and stand in that corner, everyone will know that you're a racist!! All the good people are standing in this corner with me!!"

Obviously a lot of people wouldn't be moved by such childish behavior, but I think enough were "guilted" into supporting Obama.

Also, if reasonable people get together to discuss the merits of one candidate over another, conceivably some real persuasion might take place. But again, in 2008, I think one group was open to discussion and the other group just said "You're a racist!" and I think some people said "Whatever, I'll go stand wherever you want me to stand if you just shut up."

2016 is different. And another poster said that Republicans in Iowa have a more secret sort of ballot so the unreasonable pressure may be more easily avoided.

But my basic thought is that neither the Trump nor the Cruz crowds seem like they want to discuss or persuade anyone in a civil manner. I think the caucuses may be a little rough this time.

76 posted on 01/24/2016 11:05:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking but I know what I am thinking.)
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