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To: Redmen4ever

He would have to show harm, assuming that he could find a place to file.


65 posted on 01/23/2016 9:28:06 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: RobbyS

If you’re point (”he [Trump] would have to show harm”) is merely to point out that Trump is the clear frontrunner and, were he to win Iowa, would be unstoppable, then, o.k., ha ha.

But, the matter has been ruled upon many times. Rivals have standing, citizens do not, to challenge the decision of election officials to place the names of candidates on the ballot whose qualification for the job is being challenged.

Conversely, the decision of election officials to not place a name on the ballot for such a reason can be appealed by the candidate.

Thus, the many election officials who have placed George Romney, John McCain, Barack Obama, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, not to mention Geraldine Ferraro and Sarah Palin, and the summary judgements of many judges in the cases of McCain, Cruz and Rubio all speak to the qualification of natural born citizen as developed by the Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark (persons born on U.S. soil of non-citizen legal residents) and Rogers v. Belle (person born oversea of at least one citizen parent).

Donald Trump has himself said that Cruz and Rubio are natural born citizens, and only claims that the Democrats will bring a law suit (meaning some Democratic election official won’t put Cruz’ name on the ballot or meaning that Hillary Clinton will challenge Cruz’ eligibility). It is obvious Trump is making citizenship a political issue because it makes political sense.

We’re not playing marbles. This is for President of the U.S. Four years ago, Trump made an exploratory attempt to get the Republican nomination. He found out that he couldn’t win without being pro-life and pro-gun, contributing more money to Democrats than to Republicans, being friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and voting for Barack Obama. So, he had a come to Jesus moment and became a naturalized Republican. In contrast, Cruz is a natural born Republican.


88 posted on 01/24/2016 6:45:36 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: RobbyS; All

Exactly - he would have to show ‘harm’.
I think he can only show ‘harm’ if/when he lost to Cruz, and Cruz is eventually elected the president (by then Trump can claim that the constitutionally ineligible Cruz’s winning the primary destroyed his chance to run against/defeat the DemocRAT.)
Right now, when they are only competing against each other, the court will most likely NOT rule one way or the other, (bear in mind that the Constitution does not say a non-nbc cannot run for the presidency. It only says a non-nbc cannot BE the president.) The court will probably bounce it back to Congress and/or the Sec of State of each state to determine if Cruz is an nbc who can run for the presidency (i.e. whose name can appear on the ballots).

Even if/when Trump is defeated by Cruz and Cruz becomes the president, the court will still not rule - just look at obola’s case! By then the court will say: ‘it is moot!’, ‘You should have sued before he was elected president!’

The court will never rule on this issue! They’d say it is up to congress to decide. Congress will say it is up to the court......

So if I were Trump, I would not sue Cruz.
I would do whatever it takes to defeat all my opponents, then, as the president, I would make sure the court and/or congress addresses this issue once and for all, and, to prosecute obola for usurping the presidency!


92 posted on 01/24/2016 8:57:12 AM PST by chrisnj
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