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Paul bill gives unborn children constitutional rights
WND ^ | 22 Jan 2016 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 01/23/2016 5:29:46 PM PST by amorphous

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is adding new fuel to the battle over abortion rights.

The presidential candidate has introduced legislation that would give unborn children equal protection under the law as part of the 14th Amendment, giving them the same rights as "born" individuals.

Paul said the legislation "declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known — that human life begins at the moment of conception."

"Only when America chooses, remembers, and restores her respect for life will we rediscover our moral bearings and truly find our way," he said.

Paul's legislation is expected to be placed on the Senate calendar next week, allowing it to skip over the committee process. The move could allow it to come up for a vote, though no floor time has been scheduled.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; congress; paul
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Godspeed Senator Paul!
1 posted on 01/23/2016 5:29:46 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Paul’s a kook!


2 posted on 01/23/2016 5:34:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: amorphous

Not too long ago, in this nation’s history, the unborn had the same rights as the born.
Oh how far we have fallen.


3 posted on 01/23/2016 5:36:55 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: amorphous

Cool, they can now buy guns?


4 posted on 01/23/2016 5:38:04 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: amorphous

Awesome!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:32 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He could be a raving lunatic, and a lesbian wiccan. He just done good.


6 posted on 01/23/2016 5:40:50 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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To: RKBA Democrat

He has Sarah Palin’s respect. She mentioned him while endorsing Trump.


7 posted on 01/23/2016 5:43:57 PM PST by ElainaVer
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Paul’s a kook for trying to save babies’ lives?

Now I’ve heard everything.


8 posted on 01/23/2016 5:44:04 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: amorphous

Good for Rand....now stay in the Senate, you are never going to be POTUS.

Who votes how is something I want to see.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 5:44:40 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: SisterK
Oh how far we have fallen.

Indeed. What was once a golden cup in the hand of the Almighty, is now almost completely unrecognizable. Furthermore, unless the hearts and minds of a nation's people change, and turn from their wicked ways, simply electing a new leader isn't going to save such a nation from its evil deeds.

10 posted on 01/23/2016 5:45:10 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

IIRC, the authors of Roe v Wade (may their names be eternally cursed) even noted that if Congress and the President agreed to define the unborn as persons under the Constitution, then their whole house of cards came tumbling down.

Once they’re defined as persons, they have 4th and 5th amendment rights as well.


11 posted on 01/23/2016 5:46:21 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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Small-l libertarians are obliged to speak on behalf nascent life. On the other hand, Big-L Libertarians are too often selfish idiots that support the right and choice to kill. Perhaps Paul’s bill will give the Big-Ls something to consider.


12 posted on 01/23/2016 5:48:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SisterK

Abortions used to be prohibited under pain of law but it never was treated the same as murder.

We run into sticky territory here. I hate abortion as much as the next guy, but this is an attempt to move the matter onto the plane of human-given rights rather than God-given and human-acknowledged rights. The Constitution never quite rose to talking about God-given rights even though the Declaration of Independence did. Blame chattel slavery for that coy omission, I would probably reason. Sin has a cost. At any rate, now we deal with a man-given rights paradigm.

One sticky problem is, what kind of responsibility do we assess in the event of what might have been called an act of God? Like failure of a zygote to implant, or miscarriage? If the only rights they have are before men, then men are forced into ridiculous positions. If their rights are before God, then acts of God are not counted against men.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 5:48:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ElainaVer

Yes, someone pointed that out to me. He has Potential. I would not mind seeing him as VP. Not my first choice, but not a bad choice, either.


14 posted on 01/23/2016 5:48:59 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> At any rate, now we deal with a man-given rights paradigm.

And the situation where a woman’s “liberty” is defined by having the right to kill. Sick.


15 posted on 01/23/2016 5:51:07 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Been there, done that. The small l right to lifers are a feisty bunch. Unfortunately the useless LP hasn’t seen fit to adopt the overwhelming logic of the right to life position.


16 posted on 01/23/2016 5:51:54 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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To: amorphous

Here’s what I would recommend if such a tack is to be taken.

Make an explicit exception, NOT for abortion, but for acts of God. I mean this for a specific reason. That way we won’t get into wrangles over zygotes not implanting or miscarriages happening.

Now the inclusion of this language is going to draw the ire of secularists, but it’s commonly used in insurance policies so it probably would pass muster in court (IMHO).

My $0.02


17 posted on 01/23/2016 5:53:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Gene Eric

Astute observation. With one goes the other. Satan can’t be hired to drive out Satan. Does not work.


18 posted on 01/23/2016 5:55:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Paul’s a kook!"

Yes but he is right on this. And he is showing more initiative on the matter than any of the other republicans. Why didn't Cruz do this?

19 posted on 01/23/2016 5:55:58 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Paul’s a kook!"

Yes but he is right on this. And he is showing more initiative on the matter than any of the other republicans. Why didn't Cruz do this?

20 posted on 01/23/2016 5:55:58 PM PST by DannyTN
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