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Maybe a waste of time, but I thought I'd give it a shot.
1 posted on 01/22/2016 11:40:24 AM PST by Teacher317
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I support Cruz.

I will vote for Trump if he is the eventual candidate.

but my main concerns would be that:
he may not actually be terribly conservative,
that he may start a trend of celebrity and wealthy candidates,
he is not terribly statesman-like, and his mouth and ego could bring huge issues in the future,
he promises to use the same approach as Obama and bypass Congress, and 16 consecutive years of that would be a very bad thing.

However, I think that he will be good if elected, because he is masterful at handling the media and the PC nonsense, he is amazing at picking people to accomplish tasks, and his election would be a massive repudiation of the GOP, RNC, Democrats, and media (each of whom deserves a massive kick in the 'nards, which Trump seems more than ready, willing, and able to provide).

I would be more likely to react positively to Trump supporters if posters here were not so dang SURE that Trump will do everything that we like, and nothing that we don't like, despite there being zero evidence to support these hopes. That seems dangerously short-sighted to me.

2 posted on 01/22/2016 11:40:33 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Worth a shot.

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3 posted on 01/22/2016 11:41:50 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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Nice try. Won’t work. Thanks for trying though.


4 posted on 01/22/2016 11:43:21 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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With that in mind, I'd like to make an effort at seeing if there is any way to bridge the gap between the two factions here.

No, there's a lot of deadbeats intent on trashing the place like drunken frat boys at a free keg party.

5 posted on 01/22/2016 11:45:23 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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I support Trump.
I WILL vote for Cruz or any other GOPer if he is the eventual candidate, but my main concerns will be their electability to overcome Democrant and fraudulant votes. Also concerned of Freepers sitting out b/c of indifference to Trump.

However, I think that Trump will be good if elected, because he is a no nonsense executive who does what it takes to accomplish a goal.

I would be more likely to react positively to (the other candidate) if posters here understand that opinions on issues do sometimes change in time due to circumstance, and to tone down the petty name calling and general immaturity.


9 posted on 01/22/2016 11:47:06 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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Seems to me it’s about 10-15 posters here who are causing all the ruckus here....makes me wonder what their true intent is.

I’m starting to think they’re establishment types who want to see both frontrunners destroyed making way for Bush or Rubio.

They’ve done nothing but bring FR into the gutter, it’s sad and pathetic to see.


10 posted on 01/22/2016 11:47:37 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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Trump. or I am staying home for the first time ever.


11 posted on 01/22/2016 11:48:14 AM PST by jimbo807
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I will vote for anyone (or anything) that is not a democrat.

I support Trump.

Oh, and Cruz.


12 posted on 01/22/2016 11:49:17 AM PST by glock rocks (TTTT !)
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I have no vote in US elections.

I prefer Cruz because he is a principled Conservative.

Trump doesn't appear to be particularly Conservative: however he is independent of the party machine and would be effective in breaking the grip of the one-party state.

Trump is a populist and a nationalist (which I regard as a good thing especially compared with the left's seedy internationalism). He would also govern in every conceivable way better than any of the Democrats.

14 posted on 01/22/2016 11:51:16 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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I support Trump and I predict that in about 2 mos when it becomes painfully clear he will be the GOP nominee everyone will jump on board and start trashing the Dems in anticipation of the general election. Just like in 2012. :-)


15 posted on 01/22/2016 11:51:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I am leaning, but not sold, on Cruz.

I really, really *want* to like Trump. He needs to explain his recent conversion to Conservatism, stop talking like a foul-mouthed fratboy (maybe that’s redundant), and demonstrate some kind of commitment to what he’s saying now vs. what he said just a few years ago.

However, if Trump is the nominee, i’ll pull the lever for him, in opposition to Fat Bottomed Girl or the socialist.


16 posted on 01/22/2016 11:51:40 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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We go through this every election cycle. It’s what makes this place fun. You gotta have thick skin to be a FReeper. I’m sure if John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were running today, half of us would support Adams and half would support the slave owner.


17 posted on 01/22/2016 11:51:44 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I will vote for either if nominated.
I think Trump has a better chance of winning.
The flame wars are a waste of energy.


20 posted on 01/22/2016 11:52:32 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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You would have a better chance of successfully herding cats than you will trying to get conservatives to coalescse around one candidate.

The one thing that the GOP/DNC establishment crowd can rely on is for the conservatives to form up the inevitable circular firing squad, and take out the most viable candidates.

It’s the same old story of an unstoppable force slamming into an immovable object.


22 posted on 01/22/2016 11:54:48 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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I support Ted Cruz.

I will vote for the Republican Candidate, come November.

My main concerns with Trump are my fears of the unknown.

What does he really believe in, that he will fight for us on?

What are his goals? A little more detail than “Make America Great” would help me understand what he stands for.

I fear that his “Being a Deal Maker” means that he may be too willing to compromise in order to “clench the deal.”

However, I think that he will be good if elected, because he is business saavy and we need help in reducing all the regulations that are strangling small business.

24 posted on 01/22/2016 11:57:24 AM PST by Elderberry
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This is a VERY good summary of the arguments of the Cruz supporters, "comparing" Trump versus Cruz...(I believe this blogger is an FR poster)
25 posted on 01/22/2016 11:57:36 AM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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It was inevitable that the two guys would eventually have to open fire on one another. My hope is that they can keep it within decent limits. Over-the-top hyperbole just makes the “hyperboler” look silly.

For me, as I like to say, Cruz is the best candidate we’ve seen in decades. He is a constitutionalist his whole life long, he has been a fighter, and he is the guy who didn’t hesitate to stand up when the rest of his colleagues were determined to give Obama a blank check.

Perfect? No. But pretty close.

Trump is my second choice, because on national sovereignty issues he is open and fearless. This is what draws most of his supporters to him. Now, on everything else, its a crapshoot. He is a pragmatist, not an ideologue. He is a deal-maker, which was my criticism of Romney in his day; for a deal-maker, success is putting a deal together. He has more of a spine than does Romney, but he is not any more principled than is Romney so if Trump is our leader we will have our work cut out for us trying to keep him from dealing away things we consider non-negotiable.

Picture Romney with a spine and a bull-horn, and you have Trump.

One more thing in Trump’s favor; half the Democrats will cross over to vote for him. I think either guy can beat any Dem this year, but if its Trump it will be a landslide.

So, Cruz first and Trump second. No one else running even interests me because none of the others have any credibility on the border.


26 posted on 01/22/2016 11:57:40 AM PST by marron
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31 posted on 01/22/2016 12:05:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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I don't really care about the candidates at a personal level. I am here to promote and defend Reagan Conservatism.

In that light, Cruz is a good fit, with the exception of Defense Conservatism - But since no other candidate is any better, that is unfortunately a non-issue. All I can give the DefCons is the fig leaf that I think they would appreciate a Constitutional Conservative with a measured temper for a CiC... I will support Cruz.

Trump is not a Conservative. I can find no Conservative principle, from any faction, that he has held for any considerable length of time. I will not support Trump.

32 posted on 01/22/2016 12:05:57 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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It’s not a waste of time; coming together is a noble if difficult goal.

I support Ted Cruz.

I will almost certainly vote for Trump if he is the eventual candidate, but my main concerns will be his trustworthiness (to do what he says he will), his lack of Christian character and ethics, and his tendency to sling mud in the worst way instead of focusing on the issues.

However, I think that he will be good if elected, because he has a way of cutting through the crap and focusing on achieving results. I think that Trump has the *potential* to be an excellent POTUS... if he truly rolls up his sleeves and goes to work for *AMERICA*, not for The Donald.

I would be more likely to react positively to (the other candidate) if posters here would agree with me, or failing that, would shut up and go away.

Ha ha! Just kidding. Actually, I think that what needs to change is *me*. I need to engage only those worthy of engaging (you know who you are) in a respectful manner, and ignore those who add nothing but inflammation (again, you know who you are). I also need to watch my own comments and keep them at least 80% positive for the candidate I favor (GO TED!) and maybe only 20% wrestling with the “opposition”. And 0% name calling and vacuous mudslinging.

If I had to grade myself on doing that, I’d get maybe a C+/B-. I can do better. In my defense my grades are up over 2012. :-)


35 posted on 01/22/2016 12:10:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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