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Infuriating that in a year when the Presidency is there for the taking by a real conservative, Trump is going to take the nomination. I think at the very least, I think Trump supporters should have an open-enough mind to read this NR collection.


8 posted on 01/22/2016 7:26:15 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

you made an invalid assumption

who is the principled conservative that can win?

Cruz?

not

like the man said........ everybody hates him


23 posted on 01/22/2016 7:32:37 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: dinoparty

Maybe that “real conservative” should have spent the months between July and December doing more than staying off to the side, and allowing Trump to define the race, and dismantle the competition, with a retarded assumption that he would “implode”, and thus leaving him to just waltz into the top spot be default?

And we are supposed to anoint Cruz with a crown because? People rewarded effort, and now this band of lazy idiots are now resorting to circling the wagons, and ordering people to vote for whom they demand?

And you people seriously have deluded yourself into thinking that that is the candidate to nominate? One that needs this much hand-holding?

Get infuriated at Cruz. He’s the one that blew it.


28 posted on 01/22/2016 7:33:58 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: dinoparty
Infuriating that in a year when the Presidency is there for the taking by a real conservative, Trump is going to take the nomination. I think at the very least, I think Trump supporters should have an open-enough mind to read this NR collection.

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Outside of being ideologically perfect for you what is his practical experience in being an executive? Has he ever had to make payroll? Hire and fire people?

36 posted on 01/22/2016 7:38:32 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: dinoparty

Cruz is NOT ELIGIBLE. Conservatives support the CONSTITUTION.


51 posted on 01/22/2016 7:53:16 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: dinoparty
Infuriating that in a year when the Presidency is there for the taking by a real conservative

Who is your 'real' conservative? Why isn't he 'taking it'?

I assume your answer to the first question is Cruz. Well, Cruz was my first choice too. But not only is he NOT taking anything, he is day by day making himself look foolish by playing silly political give-and-take, arguing over who said what and what political aide misinformed him on which vote, etc. etc. etc.

He doesn't look like a real conservative ("I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green", or "My policy is we win, they lose"). Instead he is hiding from past declarations and various amendment votes, or skipped votes, and all too often he looks like just another sweaty junior senator playing the system, only from the outside rather than from within.

I'll gladly vote for either Cruz or Trump. But it won't have anything to do with the wizened old goats (that means you too Mona) at NR.

They actually believe that THEY have built the conservative movement, whatever they think that means...when we KNOW is is WE who have fought and scrambled and clung to keep even a whisper of true conservatism alive.

Bill Kristol? Piss off! Rick Lowry, you sniveling little punk--go to hell. Erick Erickson--the phrase is 'live off the fat of the land', Erick, not become the fathead of the land! Glen Beck...oh for heaven's sake...the very presence of that desperate over-medicated piglet ought to be enough to send readers running for fresh air.

Yes, it is infuriating that a 'real' conservative isn't there for the taking of the Presidency. But it is no one's fault but the candidates' themselves---yours foremost among them.

60 posted on 01/22/2016 8:08:44 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: dinoparty
It wouldn't matter if they did. They honestly, truly don't care about all the liberal positions he has espoused, and even those he still openly supports.

A lot of Trump supporters are single issue voters - immigration. And since he's the loudest on that, even if he's not really more conservative than some of the others, that's enough.

The rest, and there's overlap, simply want to detonate everything, and I don't think they're all that concerned about what comes after.

So pointing out his liberal positions is kind of irrelevant at this point. Unfortunately, in my view.

63 posted on 01/22/2016 8:11:03 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: dinoparty

>>>Infuriating that in a year when the Presidency is there for the taking by a real conservative, Trump is going to take the nomination<<<

I’m a Cruz guy first, but if Trump wasn’t in the picture, the only so called “conservative” that would be in the lead would be JEB!. Rubio would be number two and Cruz next.

Even die hard Trump haters know that. It would be JEB! 24/7.

As far as Trump supporters having an open mind, it appears to me that more Trump supporters here would Vote for Cruz in the General Election than Cruz supporters here would Vote for Trump.

Just my observation, but I’m positive that’s the case.


65 posted on 01/22/2016 8:17:03 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: dinoparty

... Infuriating that in a year when the Presidency is there for the taking by a real conservative, Trump is going to take the nomination. I think at the very least, I think Trump supporters should have an open-enough mind to read this NR collection.
I would love to know. The most I have read is “the wall” which is ridiculous since despite DT lying about it Cruz has always been for and ran in 2012 senate that he was pro-wall.
Trumpees do not read anything unless they know it is pro donnie. They defend all donnie, repeat his lies as truth and love it when donnie communicates like bambi, trying to destroy anyone who does not kiss his butt. Wanna bet the dems are holding their fire to use on him if we gets the nomination?
If you figure out why please let me know. There is no logic in it and nothing conservative about it. They have blind allegiance to him no matter what he has said or done in the past yesterday or today. I have never seen anything like it. I used to think only liberals drank the koolaid.
Take heart, voting has not started yet.


68 posted on 01/22/2016 8:23:54 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: dinoparty

I, also, prefer a conservative; and just if, how or when Trump is conservative will be known only after he is elected. This is also true of others running, regardless of what they say now. It will be known by their policies, and if/how they are carried out. The road to conservatism is already littered by betrayal, disappointment, and hollow promises for us who are true believers.

The great difference this time is that we have run out of time. Another Liberal in the White House will finish America, as we have known it. With Trump we will have a mixed bag, but he is our best last chance to prevent that.

Donald Trump has become, For the time being, the name of the movement and Party without a name, that has been taking form and life over the last ten years or more. Before Trump it was a movement;maligned,ridiculed and misunderstood by the elites of both Parties, but especially The Republican Party. Incredibly, they didn’t see that this was the broadly based coalition of; new voters, blue collar ex Dems, disaffected black voters, and yes even their FORMER base of Evangelical,Tea Party fiscals, and defense conservatives they had been dreaming of. It was there for them.

Instead of reaching out with a warm hello, and you all come in and make yourselves comfortable; they pulled back into their shells fearing for their power and control, ridiculing and rejecting their greatest opportunity for massive growth in 100 years.

Now this Movement that wants to restore America and it’s Constitution is no longer an undefined something moving in the mist out their. It is self aware and has an identity as one of the strongest and growing Movements in American history.

For now the Movement without a name has become a Party without a name, and our destiny and Country is in God’s hands. May He lead us to choose wisely and give the strength for battle.


70 posted on 01/22/2016 9:09:43 AM PST by windhover (I caught this morning mornings Minion, Kingdom of daylight's Dauphin.)
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