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To: TXDuke
There is a huge difference between refusing to discuss legalization and Politico inferring from that refusal

Look how stupid you are. The first link was from Bloomberg, the second one was an interview with Chuck Todd. There was no Politico. But yes, Cruz was asked point blank about legalization and refused to take it off the table. Yes, that is a proper inference when Cruz refuses to say no in response to a direct question on that very subject.

Cruz is only directly quoting the stated objective of those people that drafted the original Gang of 8 bill.

Cruz is calling legalization part of "common sense" immigration reform. He isn't quoting any thing. He is challenging the Democrats to work with him to pass common sense reform, which brings illegals "out of the shadows."

Cruz was NOT supporting the bill. Cruz was supporting his amendment, which was a poison pill to the bill

Cruz opposed the pathway to citizenship. He supported legalization even after the gang of eight fight was over, and even offered the Democrats a doubling of green cards and a 500 percent increase in H1B visas as part of his compromise. Cruz long held that his compromise position was the way forward for the country, even after the gang of eight fight was over, like in this example:

"What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already...

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation."

More at link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372213/posts

Cruz likes to lie and claim that the Gang of Eight fight was about legalization. It wasn't. Cruz's fight was about citizenship. Sessions, Lee, Cruz, even Rush Limbaugh, had already accepted the premise that illegals couldn't be deported.

140 posted on 01/21/2016 11:10:19 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Yes, that is a proper inference when Cruz refuses to say no in response to a direct question on that very subject.”

Cruz responded, according to your own posted quote, only that he refused to respond. He didn’t say yes or no about taking it off of the table so you are WRONG again. You can make a baseless assumption, but that just make you look like an a55.

“supported legalization even after the gang of eight fight was over,”

That is another LIE. I know you’re a little slow, but legalization is NOT the same thing as H1B Visas.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.””

Cruz is right, his amendment didn’t call for deportation or a path to citizenship because if it had then the amendment would NOT pass and would NOT be attached to the original bill thus killing the bill. The original bill WOULD have passed if Cruz attempted to attach an extreme conservative amendment to it. Again, you are misreading way too much in these statements, but leaving out the full context in order to twist things to your own agenda.

I love how every conservative stated that Cruz knowingly poisoned and stopped the Gang of 8 bill, but you claim to know more than everybody else. I think your tin foil hat is too tight!

You are REALLY stretching here. Your TDS is glaring!


142 posted on 01/21/2016 11:20:21 PM PST by TXDuke
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We can both agree that you hate Cruz, although irrationally, but you’re entitled to hate anyone you want.

You are NOT entitled to spew lies and distortions. You are NOT entitled to call everyone names and insult everyone and their families just because it makes you feel big (that is a good way to get permanently banned on FR) and get your a55 kicked.

We can also agree that you love Trump and nothing, including the truth, will ever convince you otherwise. Likewise, I will never vote for Trump and it is doubtful Trump will win the general even if he does win the primary, in big part because of supporters like you that alienate everyone because of your vile behavior.

We can agree on these things and just leave it at that!


143 posted on 01/21/2016 11:26:13 PM PST by TXDuke
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