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'Natural Born' Issue for Ted Cruz Is Not Settled and Not Going Away
NBC News ^ | 01/18/2016 | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/18/2016 8:21:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: TBP

“Settled. Nonissue.”

Un, settled and nonissue for everyone except for half of Republican voters:

http://news.yahoo.com/quarter-republicans-think-cruzs-birthplace-disqualifies-him-president-120508988.html


81 posted on 01/18/2016 9:39:56 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“Why doesn’t the Donald sue and have the court slap him down?”

Answer: He doesn’t need too. Half of Republican voters already think Cruz is unqualified to run or are not sure:

http://news.yahoo.com/quarter-republicans-think-cruzs-birthplace-disqualifies-him-president-120508988.html

End of story for Ted Cruz.


82 posted on 01/18/2016 9:41:44 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Duchess47

The FS-240 was just a form like a birth certificate so your child could get a passport, the fact that you were a US Citizen when he was born is what made him a citizen. The full title is Department of State - Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States. It does not confer citizenship it merely reports it.


83 posted on 01/18/2016 9:42:59 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: Dstorm

Thanks.


84 posted on 01/18/2016 9:47:02 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: E20erer

The operative word for the FS-240 is “Should” the reason being that it makes it easier for the parents to get his passport, but a passport can be obtained by presenting other documents. Birth Certificates, Passports etc..


85 posted on 01/18/2016 9:51:46 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: mouse1

Yup. And it’s amazing how many Constitution lawyers we have here. Seriously, Ted needs to make and appointment with the guys in black ropes and get a permission slip. Otherwise this argument will never go away.


86 posted on 01/18/2016 10:00:00 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“Answer - he doesn’t like to waste money and his attorneys already told him Cruz is a naturally born citizen.”

It is not possible for Ted Cruz to be a natural born citizen, because his U.S. citizenship was acquired by using the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 to authorize his naturalization at birth. Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen. Arnold Scwarzenegger is a naturalized U.S. citizen. Arnold Schwarzeneggar is not eligible to be POTUS. Ted Cruz is a narualized U.S. citizen, so he too is not eligible to be POTUS.


87 posted on 01/18/2016 10:02:11 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Jack Black

Seriously?

No. Nobody has yet seen a long form birth certificate for Obama.

Trump forced them to post a photoshopped image on the web, but even their forgery was a typed short-form document. There has been no legitimate birth certificate produced for the man in the White House.

No way would that forgery stand up in court. Would that all the Cruz speculation would somehow draw Obama’s eligibility back into the discussion and into court.


88 posted on 01/18/2016 10:03:41 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Cobra64
Ted needs to make and appointment with the guys in black ropes and get a permission slip.

That can't happen..It's a bogus idea.

89 posted on 01/18/2016 10:05:47 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Duchess47

I have two children who were born in Berlin, Germany while I was stationed there, it sounds like you were there in the Military, I don’t think our children should be stripped of natural rights because we were under orders serving our country. When you talked about your son having to renounce his dual citizenship, I looked it up. It seems mine are still dual citizens because they haven’t renounced. I never considered it, that’s why I believe Cruz when he says he didn’t know, I never received anything that informed me that said hey your child’s 18 time to declare.


90 posted on 01/18/2016 10:06:45 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: WhiskeyX
because his U.S. citizenship was acquired by using the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 to authorize his naturalization at birth.

That is not the case and why we are here arguing this..

91 posted on 01/18/2016 10:07:22 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Dstorm
I believe Cruz when he says he didn’t know, I never received anything that informed me that said hey your child’s 18 time to declare.

Yup.....exactly..

92 posted on 01/18/2016 10:08:34 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Dstorm
I don’t think our children should be stripped of natural rights because we were under orders serving our country.

Under my interpretation and that of many others, your kids are natural born.

93 posted on 01/18/2016 10:09:54 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

That is, assuming you were.


94 posted on 01/18/2016 10:10:22 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

“That is not the case and why we are here arguing this..”

That is a denial of the previously quoted legal statutes, and you provided no support for your denial whatsoever, making it a baseless denial.


95 posted on 01/18/2016 10:15:31 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: mouse1
so why doesn’t Cruz supply the documentation and put an end to this? Why is it sealed?

Nothing is sealed. He renounced his Canadian Citizen Ship publicly and in writing to the Canadian Government. Please cite to me what is sealed.

96 posted on 01/18/2016 10:19:19 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: WhiskeyX

You have no legal statutes to prove your point.

This is a constitutional argument.

It’s only valid if your assertion about Cruz’s status is valid. And it is not.

It’s one of a number of interpretations,,

BTW, I have no intent to carry this further. I have said all I will say, and this matter will not be taken up by SCOTUS.


97 posted on 01/18/2016 10:20:07 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

“Under my interpretation and that of many others, your kids are natural born.”

Any child born abroad in a foreign jurisdiction and sovereignty without being shielded by diplomatic immunity is born with alien allegiance, and when a child of a U.S. parent, the child may elect to adopt or not to adopt the right to be naturalized at birth by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act.


98 posted on 01/18/2016 10:20:39 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Wrong...

nuff said...


99 posted on 01/18/2016 10:26:04 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

So the spin will continue till the end of our Republic.


100 posted on 01/18/2016 10:27:45 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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