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To: WhiskeyX

You have no legal statutes to prove your point.

This is a constitutional argument.

It’s only valid if your assertion about Cruz’s status is valid. And it is not.

It’s one of a number of interpretations,,

BTW, I have no intent to carry this further. I have said all I will say, and this matter will not be taken up by SCOTUS.


97 posted on 01/18/2016 10:20:07 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

“You have no legal statutes to prove your point.”

Ted Cruz made public statements claiming his mother’s U.S. citizenship was the basis for his acquisition of U.S. citizenship. The U.S. statute in effect in 1970 at the time of the birth of Ted Cruz that authorized such a grant of U.S. citizenship was 66 Stat. Public Law 414 - June 27, 1952. That statute reads as follows:

66 Stat. Public Law 414 - June 27, 1952

TITLE III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION

Chapter 1 - Nationality at Birth and by Collective Naturalization

NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH

Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; . . .
(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at lest five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.

The equivalent present day statute is:

U.S. Code: Title 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY. Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY. Subchapter III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION. Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization. § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth: The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: ... (h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

The U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual currently used to administer the past and current U.S. Immigration and Naturalization statutes says:

U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7
Consular Affairs. 7 FAM 1151 INTRODUCTION... b. 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23); INA 101(a)(23)) defines naturalization as the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth by any means whatsoever. . . For the purposes of this subchapter naturalization includes:... (5) “Automatic” acquisition of U.S. citizenship after birth, a form of naturalization by certain children born abroad to U.S. citizen parents or children adopted abroad by U.S. citizen parents.

At no time in Anglo-American history has a child born abroad been lawfully recognized as a natural born citizen, with the exception of those persons shielded by diplomatic immunity from the obligation of allegiance to a foreign sovereign. All children born abroad are born as aliens, and some of these alien born children with citizen fathers and later with citizen mothers have been granted the right to become naturalized at birth as naturalized citizens.

“BTW, I have no intent to carry this further. I have said all I will say, and this matter will not be taken up by SCOTUS.”

Of course not, you know you have no valid evidence to provide a rational rebuttal of the actual statutes, Constitution, and case law; so, you just gainsay with baseless denials.


111 posted on 01/18/2016 11:05:27 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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