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To: Red Steel

Nobody denies that Cruz was a citizen at birth, because of his parentage.

There is absolutely NO basis for concern about the PLACE of birth.

You cannot claim that Cruz must be born in the U.S. to be “natural born” and at the same time deny that “anchor babies” are “natural born citizens.”


7 posted on 01/18/2016 10:19:03 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Cruz wasn't born on the soil of the United States and his father wasn't born on the soil of the United States...he's not eligible in my book.
33 posted on 01/18/2016 10:33:22 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“and at the same time deny that “anchor babies” are “natural born citizens.””

Are the ‘anchor babies’ parents citizens?


39 posted on 01/18/2016 10:40:28 AM PST by Beagle8U (Don't settle for Bill de Blasio's NYC 'values'.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Arthur, to be natural born one must be able to produce a clear allegiance to America. Being born on foreign soil is a problem in itself, but coupled with the fact that his Father is Cuban muddies the water even more. If Cruz’ Mother could confer citizenship (and thus loyalty and allegiance) to the USA through her American citizenship . . one must assume that Cruz’ Dad could confer citizenship (and thus loyalty and allegiance) to Cuba through his Cuban citizenship. For me, it is the melding of cultures that makes Cruz’ natural born citizenship suspicious. This is the very same issue we had with Obama . . and I think it has been borne out to be conflicting to him to have two cultures dominating his allegiance and loyalty to America. Don’t we have any other candidate who was clearly born on American soil who is qualified to be our President? Of course we do. We don’t have to settle for another President who obviously has issues due to his spurious birth situation.


41 posted on 01/18/2016 10:51:23 AM PST by ElainaVer
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To: Arthur McGowan

The original meaning, born here of citizen parents, has been morphed to “born a citizen”.
The change does make anchor babies eligible, along with Winston Churchill and Ted Cruz and Obama.
The original definition was intended to protect us from foreign influence. If one could be considered anything other than an American at birth, one cannot be a natural born citizen.


42 posted on 01/18/2016 10:54:44 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Arthur McGowan

That was a bunch of nonsensical commentary.

Whatever it was that you meant to say, Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen and he is not eligible for POTUS. Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen naturalized at birth by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952. That makes Ted Cruz a naturalized U.S. citizen, which by definition is not and can never be a natural born citizen by any stretch of the imagination. Just as Arnold Schwarzenegger is not eligible as POTUS because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen, so too is Ted Cruz ineligible as POTUS because he too is a naturalized U.S. citizen.


60 posted on 01/18/2016 11:41:29 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Arthur McGowan

Natural born to be eligible to be President of the United States per the Constitution. It is not settled law. If it were, we would have never had the Chester A. Arthur controversy, Obama’s place of birth issue, or the Senate feeling the necessity to issue a non-biding resolution in 2008 finding McCain eligible to run.


71 posted on 01/18/2016 1:08:23 PM PST by kabar
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To: Arthur McGowan

>>> You cannot claim that Cruz must be born in the U.S. to be “natural born” and at the same time deny that “anchor babies” are “natural born citizens.”

I don’t think anybody is. As far as we know, Obama is not even a naturalized citizen. His current usage of a fraudulent SSN from Connecticut is just one of many pieces of evidence to that. Cruz we know is at least a naturalized citizen. But he is wrong to claim natural born status.

You cannot expect republicans to get away with assult while democrats get away with murder. This should be obvious by now.

Democrats play by different rules... they make them up as they go along while republicans are forced to follow the rules to the T.

Republicans simply do not have the level of corrupt officials and strong arm tacticians required to pull off what Obama did in 2008.


123 posted on 01/18/2016 10:17:05 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Arthur McGowan
Nobody denies that Cruz was a citizen at birth, because of his parentage.

There is absolutely NO basis for concern about the PLACE of birth.

You cannot claim that Cruz must be born in the U.S. to be "natural born" and at the same time deny that "anchor babies" are "natural born citizens."

Wow. Just wow. So you have somehow managed to pay zero attention to a whole slew of immigration/invasion issues. That's the only way to come up with that argument.

The anchor baby issue is whether the child is in fact a citizen at all and can be deported along with their invader parent(s). It is called birthright citizenship. And as anchors they keep the invading ALIEN parents here as well.

When you wrote your comment you clearly believed that two foreigners can jump the border and give birth to a child that is eligible to run for President. That is what an anchor baby is, a child of ALIENS delivered in the USA. You have lowered the bar further than any other bar-lowerer yet. Children of not one, but two ALIENS may be President!

As an exercise you should draw up a list of all the people who may not run for President. It appears such a list would be far shorter than a list of those who may. No doubt that is exactly what the Founders meant by requiring higher standards for President than all other offices. Yes indeed, almost anyone may run for our Presidency.

128 posted on 01/19/2016 6:01:22 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: Arthur McGowan; All

Now it appears that his mother may have voted in Canadian elections. She lived there for 10 years before he was born, so it was not like traveling on a vacation, or military service abroad.


139 posted on 01/19/2016 9:20:44 PM PST by gleeaikin
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