Posted on 01/18/2016 9:50:00 AM PST by Red Steel
GOP presidential candidate former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum says that fellow GOP candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is "misinforming the public" about him being a "natural born" citizen and eligible to run for President of the United States.
The Des Moines Register's politics reporter Jennifer Jacobs posted on Twitter:
Ted Cruz is "misinforming the public" by saying "natural born" issue is "settled law," Rick Santorum says in Iowa. Supreme Court must rule. -Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) January 13, 2016
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It’s not settled law. Cruz should get a DECLARATORY JUDGMENT to get the problem resolved. Then Trump can consider him for VP. Until he gets his PROBLEM resolved he has a CLOUD OVER HIS HEAD and puts the party at great risk because the Rats will sue.
The Natural Born Citizen thing is NOT settled law. That is exactly why we had the Obama birther thing all this time.
You must be a real dunce. Or a cultist.
In all countries, all of them, only far left progressives seek to diminish citizenship and residency issues. They want the world to be one big, fat open border. Which is much easier to control once they are in charge of things like the UN, for example.
Ted Cruz misled the voters of Texas and played them for fools. He really didn’t know he had Canadian citizenship, eh? Oddly enough, his roommate in college knew it BECAUSE CRUZ told him so. Is he American? I assume so. Have we seen a document registering him at the American consulate at birth, like everyone else does, if their family wants to put their marker on the red white & blue? Maybe you can produce it for us, in your infinite wisdom.
I am on record, on this site, as being in favor of Cruz for SCOTUS.
However, he had better resolve this issue and quit whizzing in his Cheerios, or Trump will decide he is too dishonest for that.
He had both. Canada giving him one doesn’t effect his US one.
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Because he does, he can’t be a natural born citizen. If you can be anything other than a US citizen at birth (foreign birth or foreign parents) you can’t be a natural born citizen. Or at least you couldn’t before Obama.
I actually like the argument, in a way. It's telling me a lot about the posters, and pretty much framing the level of respect I have for them.
Why hasn’t the campaign produced it?
Who said it isn’t important, the issue itself is what’s important. Soon it will sound like a choir asking the same question, and Cruz will not be able to run from it or plug his ears.
No, I truly believe if the argument was ever brought to a court of competent jurisdiction by a complainant with standing, and the constitutional parameters were scrupulously observed, Cruz would end up being vindicated. He is not the archetypal foreign villain the framers were trying to protect us from.
Furthermore, a sound argument can be made that an eligibility problem would resolve adversely for Obama because his facts, if fully known, would reveal a scenario where he had neither jus soli or jus sanguinis claim to NBC status. I won’t prosecute that analysis here because it would mostly be a distraction. But this is my belief.
The real problem, and the ongoing one, that truly cries out for an awakening, is how so many Americans could vote for a man with such a despicable record. We can’t fix what’s wrong with us by someone here winning the eligibility argument one way or the other. Ronald Reagan could rise from the dead, run and win as an independent, and set everything right again, and we’d still be in a world of hurt, because we are a nation of lost sheep, easily misled, struggling to find our moral compass. Until we fix ourselves, we should not expect too much out of the political process. It is a reflection of who we have become.
Peace,
SR
Kindly do not post to me. You are one of a few posters here that I hold in contempt, as I think I told you yesterday. Post your message, but if you please, just omit my handle from the “to” line.
So there has to be a case. The Schwartz case is going nowhere, because as a voter Schwartz has too diluted an injury. He won't be found to have standing.
If Trump was serious, and really wanted to do this, he could go after the election commissions on a state by state basis and sue them to get Cruz knocked off the ballot. Once Cruz is on all the ballots, and the voting happens, and Congress certifies the results, you're not going to find SCOTUS willing to step into that and overturn the act of the people at large.
But the real kicker is this. Say you get a live case, someone with standing, and SCOTUS decides to hear it. Even if the court were stacked with nine conservatives and original intent and sound historical analysis were used to decide the question, there is almost zero probability the court would find him unqualified. But modern jurisprudence, especially the recent Nguyen case (2001), is breaking in favor of a simple two-category sense, where naturalization can only happen after birth, not at birth, with the default result that anyone not naturalized will be consider natural born.
Now I know a lot of folks here might not like that answer, but I didn't create this reality. I just live here. From Cruz's point of view, there is no realistic way he would lose such a challenge, and I think he is right.
Peace,
SR
If your spouse is a Cuban citizen then your speech may not be on point.... Your children are American citizens, but IMHO, not natural born.
I will post to you if your statements warrant a public refutation. If you wish to complain to the moderator, you may do so.
Peace,
SR
That's all .. just change the name in the "to" line from "cboldt" to "All" or something. If you think it helps your reader, you may, in your reply, says something like "cboldt is wrong because ..."
I am not going to engage in any substantive dialog with you. I do not want to associate with you. I hold you in contempt. I would like you to please respect that. I mean you no harm, I wish you no ill.
“Because he does, he can’t be a natural born citizen”
So you’re saying something another country does can impact my citizenship? So if Russia decides to give me a birth certificate that would impact my citizenship here?
I think you should try again.
If you were born in Russia
They have
“Dated a month after his birth on Dec. 22, 1970, it shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born to Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, a “geophysical consultant†born in Matanzas, Cuba, and the former Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, born in Wilmington, Del.
Her status made the baby a U.S. citizen at birth. For that, U.S. law required at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen who had lived for at least a decade in the United States.
She registered his birth with the U.S. consulate, Frazier said, and the future senator received a U.S. passport in 1986 ahead of a high school trip to England.”
That is not a U.S. birth certificate.
I voted for Santorum in the 2012 primary. It becomes more and more obvious that his lack of judgment led to his loss of his Senate seat and now it is time for Rick to retire and stop embarrassing himself.
And it's not a function of my opinion being settled law - its just my opinion that's settled.
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