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Trump Says He'll Consider Filing Citizenship Suit Against Cruz (video at source)
weeklystandard.com ^ | Daniel Halper

Posted on 01/17/2016 8:01:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: South40

Those who question CRUZ and Rubio and Jindall and Santorum qualification also questioned O qualification. So apparently that puts you on the liberal” living constitution “ side We believe in original intent


181 posted on 01/17/2016 9:18:15 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: Fernet Branca
Trump is losing his dignity here.

Trump brags about supporting liberal politicians to buy personal favors.

Trump and dignity are mutually exclusive.

182 posted on 01/17/2016 9:18:46 AM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: Rufii

I agree.

I support Trump.

Watch this position and post get me flamed like I was a red-headed stepchild.

I also found this video of an RNC man speaking prior to the debate yesterday, a guy named Redfield. This is the RNC’s position on the vularians’ #coldanger: https://youtu.be/OT75R0uksSo


183 posted on 01/17/2016 9:19:14 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: CpnHook

So this is similar to the argument that Alan Keyes had with BO, but Trump has a much better chance of winning the presidency than Keyes did, so his case is stronger and less likely to be dismissed.


184 posted on 01/17/2016 9:20:01 AM PST by thecodont
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To: FerociousRabbit; ilgipper

Another FReeper put it very well: “...a celebrity in a pissing match with Rosie O’Donnell..” The Donald is just that, a meretricious celebrity with an addiction to attention. This is no statesman, and not what we need to restore the dignity of the office.


185 posted on 01/17/2016 9:20:06 AM PST by Lexinom (New York Values == AIDS and dead babies)
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To: conservativejoy
There's no point in discussing it any more. Getting the loan is not the whole issue. The other part that won't go away is obscuring it because it doesn't fit the narrative that Cruz created for voters.

If Cruz isn't an honest broker of his own narrative, what can we trust him about? The others (except for Jeb), for all their warts don't seem to be hiding who they are and how they got to this position in life.

186 posted on 01/17/2016 9:20:49 AM PST by grania
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To: ClearCase_guy
demand that a court decide if another candidate can actually hold the office

That's a non-justiceable political question.

Affirmation of eligibility is assigned by the Constitution to Congress, and only to Congress. The doctrine of non-justiceability covers exactly this situation, wherein functions of Constitutional interpretation that are explicitly delegated to another branch cannot be resolved in the courts.

Whether a person with >270 electoral votes "can hold the office" is decided by Congress, at the Special Joint Session described in Article II and Amendment XII.

187 posted on 01/17/2016 9:20:59 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: conservativejoy

True but not filing it in required documents can instigate at the least a fine


188 posted on 01/17/2016 9:21:08 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: thecodont

No, if Trump had standing where Keyes did not it would be because Cruz is a constitutional conservative (must be stopped) while Obama is a communist infiltrator (gets a pass).


189 posted on 01/17/2016 9:21:30 AM PST by Lexinom (New York Values == AIDS and dead babies)
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To: catfish1957

Disagree.

Look at Trumps rallies. Do you think Rush could hold such rallies? Or Levin, for that matter? People are there because they support Donald Trump and how he wants to bring about the right changes our country so desperately needs.

No disrespect to Rush, he is the best. But to think people who are going to vote for Trump will change their mind because of something Rush Limbaugh says, that is false thinking.

Ask most Trump supporters, there is not much he could say or do at this point to prevent us from voting for him, and Rush Limbaugh certainly will not change that.

Choosing the wrong VP would give Trump supporters more pause over anything Levin or Rush says and again, it will only lessen THIER numbers if they choose to go that route.

While Rush probably got Trump to back off on something a few weeks ago regarding Cruz, it is obvious the gloves are off now and Trump will not be backing down.

I do like that Trump said he would speak with Ted first prior to filing and lawsuit and you could tell it was not something Trump was pursing at this time. He was responding to a journalists question.


190 posted on 01/17/2016 9:21:39 AM PST by E20erer
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To: Lexinom
Yep Trump and his clown supporters have turned the GOP primary into a cage match reality show.

Watch how far he turns back to his left base after elected.

191 posted on 01/17/2016 9:22:22 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: gwgn02

You are way off base.

Having candidates in primaries who may or may not be eligible for the post is called FRAUD. It is illegal.

Cruz could acquire 20/30% of delegates before the RNC kick him out of the race. Then they later at the convention give those delegates to Jeb Bush.


192 posted on 01/17/2016 9:22:57 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: grania
Besides that, he's very smart on national security

No one whose drunk the moderate Syrian rebel koolaid can be trusted with American foreign policy, no matter how smart he is.

193 posted on 01/17/2016 9:23:02 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: CpnHook
‘Actually, Trump would have standing since as a presidential candidate, he could claim a particularized injury from the presence of an ineligible candidate siphoning votes which Trump could claim in part would otherwise go to him. Polling this morning showing Trump wins every head to head challenge against the other Republicans, save for Cruz, could be compelling proof. ‘

Interesting line of reason.
Mr.Trump actual words do not show any intent to sue, at this time. He wants to talk with Mr. Cruz.
Trumps idea for a declaratory judgment is the best idea out there. If neither Cruz nor Trump bring suit(and the other guy from Texas may get into court), then Mz Pelosi will stop Cruz from being elected. I think she has the votes from both Republicans and Democrats to disqualify the votes for Cruz. And tie the process up in knots for a long, long time. Chief Justice Edwards would play a big role in this process.
TWB

194 posted on 01/17/2016 9:23:07 AM PST by TWhiteBear (i)
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To: catfish1957

I don’t think he gets elected, unless he manages to turn out the adult junior high demographic...


195 posted on 01/17/2016 9:23:17 AM PST by Lexinom (New York Values == AIDS and dead babies)
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To: American Faith Today

There are also stories out there about Ted’s father you know.

I don’t post those stories or make comments about them because I don’t believe everything I read.

You might want to take the same approach with your Trump comments.

Honesty is not just not telling lies. It is also looking at things with a clear eye, an open mind, and not repeating the lies and exaggeration of others.


196 posted on 01/17/2016 9:23:23 AM PST by Amntn ("The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people" - Donald Trump)
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To: Rufii
The Trump/Cruz fallout has touched off a nasty civil war on FR, the likes of which I have never seen since I joined.

Nothing new really. Same thing happened last election. Conservatives split the vote among Newt, Santorum etc and allowed Romney to win. Getting conservatives to rally around a candidate is like herding cats.

197 posted on 01/17/2016 9:23:59 AM PST by plain talk
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Marco Rubio. Anchor baby, Cuban.

His parents were legal residents of the United States, had already begun the (time-consuming*) process of getting citizenship, and were subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.**

"Anchor baby" refers to a child born in the US to a foreigner without resident status, who then uses that birth to attempt to gain legal residency in the US.

Rubio is not an "anchor baby" (though he is the chief beneficiary of this DumbTrumpDump). Try again.

* "time consuming" because you have to file all your papers, state intent, and then wait a minimum of 5 years. His parents were naturalized in 1975, Rubio was born in 1971, obviously they had already sworn as to their intent before he was born.

** "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" means they had no diplomatic immunity and could be tried in American courts just like you or me."

198 posted on 01/17/2016 9:24:22 AM PST by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: E20erer

trump is a blow hard, he said back in September he had his lawyers look at this and they told him Cruz is a natural born citizen under the Constitution. Trump admitted in the debate he only brought up the issue because suddenly Cruz was beating him in Iowa. Trump will say or do anything he thinks will help him, even quoting leftist professor Tribe. He knows Iowa will go Cruz and then the scales will fall from many eyes.


199 posted on 01/17/2016 9:25:47 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: mac_truck

Thank you. I did not realize Rubio bought into the “moderate Syrian rebel” rhetoric. That’s unacceptable. It’s buying into the whole globalist/Bush/Obama agenda that made such a mess out of the Mideast.


200 posted on 01/17/2016 9:25:48 AM PST by grania
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