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To: kabar
Well at least we do agree Trumps putting on a show with all it's pageantry..... You said....."Many hours are devoted to creating the right impression. Trump seems to be a natural. He knows how to appeal to his audiences. What is wrong with that?"

First he's not a "natural" at manipulating an audience...he spent 30 years learning the Hollywood trade of honing in on an audience.... That's what entertainers do and are by trade........You ask..." What's wrong with that?"....because in this Presidential race Trump is wearing 'a mask of conservatism' which he is not. ....therefore it's deception.

You added that.... "Trump represents 'the people's discontent' with the political class."........Oh!..so now we vote because a candidate 'represents discontent' rather than standing strong on the 'principles' of Conservatism that should be their foundation? ....I don't think so!...But then there are a host of people who are content to just have a "fighter" though they have no idea where Trump 'really' stands on the issues that concern us....he has no history of 'doing' anything for those principles or this country of that which he now claims he wants to "Serve". ....what service has he performed aside form that of his own self serving ideas?

You mentioned Obama's Lack of EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE but you must know that all the executive experience in the world wouldn’t have made Obama a good president because he is so wrong ideologically.....but also because Obama has neither the temperament nor the perspective to be an effective leader....... With Obama, it’s always ALL about Obama, and executive experience would not have changed that because it’s fundamentally who he is.....the same applies to Trump...it's 'ALL' about Trump 24/7....and most assuredly his History reveals just that and to date!

Furthermore...I would certainly rather have 'a Principled Conservative, tried and proven, and that 'with less management experience then some might expect,... who follows the Constitution and Laws for the people's benefit and done so within the Government.... than a 'liberal', (which Trump is), with lots of business experience, who boasts of those he's "payed for from both sides of the aisle",... who knows little at best of our Constitution or of the framework of how Government branches operate..... There's a huge difference there!

And BTW Cruz has had far more experience then Obama did, (who isn't running keep in mind), for five years as Solicitor General CruZ had charge of of 700 Ego maniac lawyers to coral and kept in line an agency of over 4000...not to mention orchestrating a campaign with thousands on the ground working for him throughout the nation.... I don't think he'll have any problem navigating the Washington terrain at all... He's been there...knows how things are done and where the power is and needs to be dealt with....and he's already got people in place to move when his feet hit the ground....

Should we also add Trump, unlike Cruz, has no moral compass?....

360 posted on 01/18/2016 4:05:06 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
First he's not a "natural" at manipulating an audience...he spent 30 years learning the Hollywood trade of honing in on an audience.... That's what entertainers do and are by trade........You ask..." What's wrong with that?"....because in this Presidential race Trump is wearing 'a mask of conservatism' which he is not. ....therefore it's deception.

Trump has never run for elective office before. If he is wearing the "mask of conservativism," how many other candidates in the race are doing the same thing? Cruz is wearing the mask of an outsider while he is the ultimate insider, i.e., a sitting senator who has spent most of his working life in government and who depends on donors like Goldman Sachs, the Club for Growth, and a rich hedge fund sugar daddy.

You added that.... "Trump represents 'the people's discontent' with the political class."........Oh!..so now we vote because a candidate 'represents discontent' rather than standing strong on the 'principles' of Conservatism that should be their foundation? ....I don't think so!...

I am beyond meaningless labels. The political class is bought and paid for by the corporate class and special interests. Both parties have abandoned the American worker. We have a Rep controlled Congress that has sold out to Obama giving him everything he wants. The power of the purse has not been used to stop him and his agenda. For me, the immigration issue is the litmus test. I support Trump for addressing it from the outset.

But then there are a host of people who are content to just have a "fighter" though they have no idea where Trump 'really' stands on the issues that concern us....he has no history of 'doing' anything for those principles or this country of that which he now claims he wants to "Serve". ....what service has he performed aside form that of his own self serving ideas?

The political class has failed us. I want someone outside Washington who can't be bought. I want a leader and competence. I want someone who has been successful outside government. If keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, that is the definition of insanity. Trump has built a business that employs thousands and contributes huge amounts of tax revenue. He is not feeding at the public trough.

You mentioned Obama's Lack of EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE but you must know that all the executive experience in the world wouldn’t have made Obama a good president because he is so wrong ideologically.....but also because Obama has neither the temperament nor the perspective to be an effective leader.

Neither does Cruz who is more like Obama than Trump. Cruz has little executive experience and has worked for the government most of his working life. He is a product of the Ivy League, like Obama. He is an ideologue like Obama. Cruz has been a grandstanding gadfly in the Senate and a pariah within his own party. How is he going to get things done when he is in the WH? Executive order? Cruz doesn't have the temperament to be a leader. On the other hand, Trump has worked with others to get deals that he needs to build his business. He wrote the Art of the Deal, remember?

Furthermore...I would certainly rather have 'a Principled Conservative, tried and proven, and that 'with less management experience then some might expect,... who follows the Constitution and Laws for the people's benefit and done so within the Government.... than a 'liberal', (which Trump is), with lots of business experience, who boasts of those he's "payed for from both sides of the aisle",... who knows little at best of our Constitution or of the framework of how Government branches operate..... There's a huge difference there!

Labels don't matter. Regardless, Cruz will not get the nomination and he is undetectable in the General. We don't need another first term Senator. Three senators, Warren G. Harding, John F. Kennedy, and Barack Obama moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the White House. None of them were great Presidents.

And BTW Cruz has had far more experience then Obama did, (who isn't running keep in mind), for five years as Solicitor General CruZ had charge of of 700 Ego maniac lawyers to coral and kept in line an agency of over 4000...not to mention orchestrating a campaign with thousands on the ground working for him throughout the nation.... I don't think he'll have any problem navigating the Washington terrain at all... He's been there...knows how things are done and where the power is and needs to be dealt with....and he's already got people in place to move when his feet hit the ground....

Comparing the work experience of Obama and Cruz is like determining the degree of virtue among whores. Cruz doesn't work well with others. He is overly ambitious and seeks the limelight. He has pissed off so many of colleagues in the Senate that he will have a tough time getting anything done.

Should we also add Trump, unlike Cruz, has no moral compass?...

No moral compass? Somehow he seems to have raised outstanding children who seem to genuinely admire and love him. Trump works hard, doesn't drink or smoke, and seems to be respected as a boss. His first wife believes he will be a great President and does not speak ill of him. So what do you mean by "no moral compass?"

366 posted on 01/18/2016 10:48:25 PM PST by kabar
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