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Ted Cruz is not eligible to become president
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/15/2016 | Tony Quinn

Posted on 01/16/2016 3:02:27 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was born in Canada; he is not a "natural born citizen," and he is not eligible to be president.

And this is an issue that isn't going away, contrary to The Sacramento Bee's assertion, ("Trump's 'birther' lunacy, the sequel," Editorials, Jan. 7)

The Constitution is very precise: "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the office of President." The founders knew what they meant.

John Jay, later the first chief justice of the United States, wrote: "the commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen." Later, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, wrote: "Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic?"

Congress has passed a statute that says if one of your parents is a U.S. citizen, you are an American citizen, too, no matter where you were born. Cruz's mother was born in Delaware. That makes him a "citizen" by statute, but not a "natural born citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution.

If both of Cruz's parents had been American-born, Cruz would have a stronger case. However, his father was born in Cuba.

Every other president and presidential candidate in our history was born either within the United States or one of its possessions. At no time ever was Calgary, Canada, where Cruz was born in 1970, a U.S. possession.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bfac; cruz; cruznoteligible; desperation; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; trump
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To: Kenny

I hope you really did analyze this on your own. It should feel good and give you confidence that your conclusion is the right one. Hats off, kudos. Apply that process to anything that you find important, and you will, I promise, be shocked at how misinformed the general public is. The public is being manipulated beyond your wildest imagination, largely by “follow the herd” and “ridicule” methodologies. If you don’t succumb to that, it’s like “The Matrix.”


101 posted on 01/16/2016 3:58:54 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: dontreadthis

I wonder if Cruz signed up with selective service when he turned 18


102 posted on 01/16/2016 4:06:02 PM PST by changeitback440
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To: thecodont; mrsmith

All due respect FRiend, please trace the conversation I was engaged in with mrsmith.


103 posted on 01/16/2016 4:06:16 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: miss marmelstein
I wish we could have at least one candidate where both the parents were born in the USA.

That is immaterial, they simply need to be US citizens.

these first generation pols

They are some of the most strident patriots.

104 posted on 01/16/2016 4:09:22 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: mrsmith
State could allow anyone to run if it wants- maybe as a ‘Freedom of Speech’ thing LOL!

Allowing to run and certifying are two different things....you wrote certify

Can a State certify a candidate for POTUS who is not at least 35?

The answer is no....of course this is 2016 so what does it matter.....LOL!!!/s

105 posted on 01/16/2016 4:10:51 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; mrsmith; Publius
"What if said candidate is only 30 years old?"

The ultimate arbiter of who is eligible is the council of 50 separate State AG and/or SOS. The governors as the executive authority over those offices in many, but not all, states also are part of the council.

There's about 100 people who ultimately decide who can access their ballot.

If even ONE state declines to allow Cruz ballot access (for any reason, constitutionally valid or not) he would have to sue to the USSC under Original Jurisdiction.

The USSC would then have to decide if that state's reason for keeping him off the ballot was constitutionally valid, again under Original Jurisdiction.

I don't see that anyone but the states have standing.

106 posted on 01/16/2016 4:11:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: chris37

Every state has it’s own rules.

Sorry, I’m watching the games tonight and can’t do much to help tonight.


107 posted on 01/16/2016 4:12:12 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: windsorknot

The turd-le needs to join the oompah-loompah in retirement!


108 posted on 01/16/2016 4:14:40 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (FUBO)
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To: Cboldt

You mean his behavior this past week? I sure hope you’re right...


109 posted on 01/16/2016 4:14:56 PM PST by Lexinom (New York Values == AIDS and dead babies)
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To: Mariner
The ultimate arbiter of who is eligible is the council of 50 separate State AG and/or SOS. The governors as the executive authority over those offices in many, but not all, states also are part of the council.

IMO, the Constitution is still the law of the land and States may not supersede its basic tenants....but is 2016 after all, let's party!!

110 posted on 01/16/2016 4:15:18 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; mrsmith; chris37

Sorry for jumping in (awkwardly) and I did go back and retrace the thread. I’m in agreement with you (#94) about the Constitution being the final word on eligibility. But to chris37’s earlier post, there isn’t a law that keeps an ineligible individual from _running_ for the office; I guess the Founders didn’t foresee this.


111 posted on 01/16/2016 4:15:25 PM PST by thecodont
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

I disagree. Now, although I am not a skilled researcher, I have spent hundreds of hours researching this topic. Over seven years. Specifically the dual citizenship angle.

Tribe. Lee. Natelson. Mary Brigid McManamon. All recently concurred that the original intent of the clause would certainly exclude Cruz. They aren’t birthers. They are all well respected Constitutional law professors and serious Constitutional scholars.

I was pleased to find that although my research methods are haphazard, my findings mirrored theirs. There is hope for me yet it appears.

Since I began my work long before Cruz was in the picture, Ted was clearly not in my sights. Once his dual citizenship was revealed, and the fact that he was born in Canada came out, well, I can not overlook that. Based upon my own many hours of hands-on research, I know him to be ineligible. Problematically people these days don’t care to study a topic before KNOWING something. I believe you have to take steps to learn before you can know.


112 posted on 01/16/2016 4:17:57 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The Bee knows better.


113 posted on 01/16/2016 4:20:14 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: amihow
Obama born on U.S. soil.

Whoa!

Not according to Obama, and his grandmother. Furthermore, no one can prove it.

114 posted on 01/16/2016 4:21:13 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: thecodont
But to chris37’s earlier post, there isn’t a law that keeps an ineligible individual from _running_ for the office; I guess the Founders didn’t foresee this.

To me, speaking for my self only, it seems to me if you can't meet the requirement you cannot run.

For example, a VP pick who doesn't meet the requirement cannot be on the ticket, kind of like taking a driver test when you are only 10 years old.....you can take the test but you can't get the license therefor you are not allowed to take the test to begin with.

115 posted on 01/16/2016 4:22:08 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"IMO, the Constitution is still the law of the land and States may not supersede its basic tenants....but is 2016 after all, let's party!! "

My point is that if or when they do act counter to the constitution, there's only one place to go to have it corrected.

And I believe it is likely one or more states will not allow Cruz access.

He would not have been able to obtain ballot access in Texas when he first ran as a Senator if he had disclosed he was a Canadian citizen, and would probably not be able to do so today if he still were.

116 posted on 01/16/2016 4:23:20 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: mrsmith

NP!

I am watching Pats vs. Chiefs right now too :D


117 posted on 01/16/2016 4:23:30 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: miss marmelstein

Well,according to the strict Constitutional originalists, as long as both parents are citizens at the time the child is born, on US soil, THAT is the original intent. Mr. Trumps mother was indeed a naturalized US citizen four years before his birth. Father Trump was born in the US.


118 posted on 01/16/2016 4:24:02 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Las Vegas Ron

‘Allowing to run and certifying are two different things....you wrote certify’
But in that reply I said ‘allow to run’!

Anyway, the states are not changing anything in the Constitution. They are either enforcing, or not, those requirements on candidates.


119 posted on 01/16/2016 4:24:06 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: calisurfer
Levin is an ignoramus blowhard.

Yeah, but he's good at it.

120 posted on 01/16/2016 4:24:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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