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To: AFret.

“If that is what Cruz said, and I think that is what I heard, Cruz is ineligible.”

I will explain again. There are several wrong ideas about who is a natural born citizen. There are posters on this forum who have said to be naural born citizen, the person must be born in this country to two parents who were born in this country. That is wrong but it is said by numerous people across the country. That is the reason Cruz brought that one up - to show using that criteria, Trump would not be eligible as his mother was not born in this country. He was pointing out to Trump not to get caught up in these wrong headed ideas about who is a nautral born citizen.

There are two kinds of citizens - natural born and naturalized. Cruz was a nautral born citien, never naturalized. My grandson was born in London to an American father and English mother. He is a natural born American citizen since his father is American and an American Passport was issued in his name the day he was born. He is a American natural born citizen and will not be naturalized.


2,497 posted on 01/14/2016 7:46:27 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: Marcella

I’ll take Carson’s mama in ANY cabinet position over now.


2,511 posted on 01/14/2016 7:47:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Marcella

I will explain again. There are several wrong ideas about who is a natural born citizen. There are posters on this forum who have said to be naural born citizen, the person must be born in this country to two parents who were born in this country. That is wrong but it is said by numerous people across the country. That is the reason Cruz brought that one up - to show using that criteria, Trump would not be eligible as his mother was not born in this country. He was pointing out to Trump not to get caught up in these wrong headed ideas about who is a nautral born citizen.


It’s not necessary to be condescending. I made a simple statement characterizing Cruz’s comments as being disingenuous. I will elaborate. Cruz made the statement about Trumps mother not to clarify, but to mask his own citizenship issue. He believes that the electorate is so stupid, that he can tell them anything, and they will believe it. He is a fast talking used car salesman. When the prospective buyer wants to look under the hood, Cruz wants to open the trunk. A smart buyer will walk away..I certainly have.


2,997 posted on 01/14/2016 8:12:10 PM PST by AFret.
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To: Marcella

Well stated. As it was by Cruz. All the panicked responses here by Trump supporters to the effect that ‘Cruz lied, of course Trump’s mom was a citizen when he was born,’ was evidence that either they didn’t understand this simple point or they recognized Cruz scoring big on their guy. What I haven’t seen anyone point out yet was that Cruz presented extreme argument as one he’d heard from others that questioned Trump’s eligibility, not one he was making himself. A tactic that Trump supporters might recognize! Just like Cruz’s “New York, New York” comments were matching response to Trump playing “Born in the USA” at his rallies.


3,243 posted on 01/14/2016 8:23:41 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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