Just singned up I see. Welcome to FR.
Be honest, nothing Cruz produces will be sufficient for you.
Anita Trump needs to start acting more like a serious candidate and stop trying to keep his face on the cover of the National Enquirer.
No.. he wouldn't.
Where are Hussein’s passport records?
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As a noob, you will be subject to a thorough examination by all sides.
Don’t let it get to you.
Yeah, this has been argued and according to many is irrelevant. I hope you enjoy personal attacks and criticism, a few are soon to follow.
Kabar and I had a rather heated exchange where he and I were on opposite sides of that question, or some form of that question, and I would like kabar to respectfully reconsider his position that Cruz's citizenship depends on a CRBA or a Certificate of Citizenship.
My point of view is that Cruz is a citizen because the circumstances of his birth meet the relevant statute. There is good evidence that his mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, and that she met the residence requirements in the statutes before Ted's birth abroad. Ted has traveled on a US passport, which is only granted to US citizens.
The new argument that I offer is to ask what a court would find, if, hypothetically, there is no CRBA (and even no passport). I think the court would examine the evidence associated with the circumstances of birth, and perform the same analytical function that a Consulate Officer performs. If the evidence substantiates Cruz's mother's US citizenship at Cruz's birth, and her residence in the US before his birth, the court would find Cruz to be a citizen at birth, pursuant to the relevant statute. It would do so even if there was no CRBA, no passport and no Certificate of Citizenship.
The only time naturalized or other legal created citizenship would apply to presidential qualifications was at the time of adoption of the US Constitution as it says in black and white.
The Clause at issue is this one please note it distinguishes natural born citizen from citizen.
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;...â€
The only time a legal-created citizenship mattered for president was “... at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,†and this aint 1776 no more.
Welcome to Birther Central.
Cruz went to school in the US.
Find out what were the school registration rules in Texas in 1976/77 when he started kindergarten.
Most importantly, Ted went to England for a competition when he was high school age; that would have been between 1985 to 1988.
He would have needed a passport to travel.
This is the biggest waste of time in the history of wasting time. Congratulations!!!
Troll.
That’s funny. No. I’m not a Cruz fan, but really, dopey? Go back to DailyKos and cry about how Hillary is a victim. LOL
This is a good question. If the only birth certificate one gets is from the country where one is born (Canada in this case), there must be an additional “certificate” to assure the baby is a US citizen via the parent. This only makes sense, espcially if the baby wants to be US president down the line. “Documented” is what we require of others in our country (well, used to), why is it such a leap to ask it of a Canadian born candidate running for US president?
You will find plenty of fellow "Conservative" Cruz critics.
...where the Trump supporters act like tween girls at a Justin Beiber concert.
Should? Not "must"?
Interesting.
Has Cruz had any trouble travelling abroad?
“She registered his birth with the U.S. consulate, Frazier said, and the future senator received a U.S. passport in 1986 ahead of a high school trip to England.”
The legal issue involved is not whether he is a citizen or an illegal alien, but rather whether he is a "natural born citizen" so as to qualify for the office of President. To that point, a good argument can be made that it requires US birth to two US citizen parents. The other side of the argument is that it means that you were a citizen at birth without having to be naturalized. The latter is the argument that has prevailed by way of precedence. For the Supreme Court to now say otherwise would be to invalidate the presidencies of Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover and Barack Obama who all lacked two US citizen parents. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. He did not have to be naturalized. You may not like that interpretation of "natural born citizen" but that is what it has become. I don't agree that should be the interpretation either but I accept that is how it has been interpreted. That is the end of it. Accept it. Ted Cruz is qualified for the office and Trump is going to have to beat him on ideas and not by having him disqualified.
Ted did not need a CRBA. It is not a requirement. He did, however, get a US Passport, which proves the exact same thing.
My sister was born in Germany. She does not have a CRBA. But she has a passport. Since she was not naturalized - a process that takes place after birth - the passport proves she was born a US citizen.
This entire thread is useless without a verifiable citation of WHEN (what date) the statute on which the argument is made is cited.