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Vanity: Would Ted Cruz Be Eligible For POTUS During The Time Of Our Founding Fathers
Me | 01/11/2016 | PJBankard

Posted on 01/11/2016 6:52:52 PM PST by PJBankard

Based on the current knowledge of Ted Cruz's citizenship, would Ted Cruz be considered eligible for the presidency at the time of our Founding Fathers (1788 - 1840).

Facts About Ted Cruz:
1) Mother was U.S. Citizen
2) Father was a foreign Citizen
3) Born in Foreign Country (Canada was a British Colony at the time)
4) Held Dual Citizenship



On July 25, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, presiding officer of the Convention:

Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

While the Committee on Detail originally proposed that the President must be merely a citizen as well as a resident for 21 years, the Committee of Eleven changed "citizen" to "natural born citizen" without recorded explanation after receiving Jay's letter. The Convention accepted the change without further recorded debate.


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KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; notnaturalborn; trump
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Jesus is not amused by having his words altered
261 posted on 01/12/2016 8:49:33 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Stop trolling the forum and misusing Scripture, and performing what is — essentially — context-sensitive Denial of Service attack.


262 posted on 01/12/2016 8:49:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz; HiTech RedNeck; Admin Moderator

“Do not let a “root of bitterness” spring up in your heart” (Hebrews 12:15)


263 posted on 01/12/2016 8:50:28 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No discussion about real and present dangers is complete without discussion about real and present hopes. If America wasn’t anything more than a heap of dangers I don’t know why anyone would bother with it.

True! And thank you for that.

264 posted on 01/12/2016 8:50:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: don-o

Let’s ignore her


265 posted on 01/12/2016 8:50:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lazamataz

Let’s ignore her


266 posted on 01/12/2016 8:51:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Do you ignore a hacker who has set up a Denial of Service attack?

Of course not. You bring them down.


267 posted on 01/12/2016 8:51:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz

1 John 1:6 “If we say we have fellowship with Him (God) while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.”

1 John 4:8 “Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”


268 posted on 01/12/2016 8:51:26 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: don-o

1 John 1:6 “If we say we have fellowship with Him (God) while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.”

1 John 4:8 “Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”


269 posted on 01/12/2016 8:52:11 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: Lazamataz

Can’t help it. Talos guides me. ;)


270 posted on 01/12/2016 8:52:35 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

You are engaging in a contextual-sensitive Denial of Service attack on Free Republic by misusing the Holy Bible. You are likely sitting in a troll-center, getting paid.


271 posted on 01/12/2016 8:52:35 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why do you always want to let evil run wild?


272 posted on 01/12/2016 8:53:51 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Stop engaging in a contextual Denial of Service attack by flooding the forum with misused Scripture.


273 posted on 01/12/2016 8:54:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Very good move to ping the mod. First thing they will do is look at that posting history of yours.

No matter the form it takes, disruption is frowned on here.


274 posted on 01/12/2016 8:54:42 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Isaiah 51:7 - “Hear me, you who know what is right, you people who have taken my instruction to heart: Do not fear the reproach of mere mortals or be terrified by their insults.”


275 posted on 01/12/2016 8:56:46 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: don-o

Don, this ain’t her first rodeo with this. It’s her third this week. The mods know. Shes still here.


276 posted on 01/12/2016 8:57:12 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Lazamataz

“Blessed is me, when men shall revile me, and persecute me and shall say all manner of evil against me falsely, for My sake.” (Matthew 5:11)


277 posted on 01/12/2016 8:57:26 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: Lazamataz

“Blessed is me, when men shall hate me”…Luke 6:22


278 posted on 01/12/2016 8:57:57 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I love JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me! Thank You, JESUS! (1 John 4:19))
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To: Lazamataz

I try to look at situations like this with “Gordian knot cutting” views.

Mr. Y, with whom I stiffly disagree quite often, is at least warm on this; if we don’t have a model of God in our picture and how His governance pertains, then we can’t sort out Constitution questions either.

I take a far more grace-based view than does Mr. Y, which in fact I hold to be the correct and bible backed view, not just a view that I choose because I might happen to like it. Grace can have costs; it can conscript resources of mine to be spent upon furthering grace. However the promise then is there that I will be rewarded handsomely for doing that.

Here is how I go: ANY reasonable take on the Constitution which brings the spirit of God to bear, is better than none. We are talking about men’s work in the face of God’s, and the former has to yield to the latter for us to see blessing.

In the meantime, things in the Constitution could be revised to better ward off problems, and that should be addressed when the proper time comes for it. I am sanguine on things like a Bork amendment, which brings the USSC stagnation situation better back into line with the philosophy of “We The People” heading up the Constitution. Even better might be some way of doing a Federal plebiscite, but that may be too easily gimmicked.


279 posted on 01/12/2016 8:59:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Because if we don’t FEED it, then it gets bored and leaves.


280 posted on 01/12/2016 8:59:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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