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Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents
Breitbart.com ^ | Jan. 8 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 01/08/2016 6:00:09 PM PST by FR_addict

A document uncovered by Breitbart News indicates that the parents of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) were named on a Calgary list of electors for Canada's federal election of July 8, 1974. Ted Cruz parents are listed as Cruz, Eleanor, Mrs. nd Cruz, Raphael, self employed, both at 920 Riverdale Avenue, South West in Calgary, Alberta.

Canadian law restricts (and restricted) federal voting rights to Canadian citizens.

In a statement to Breitbart News—the full text of which follows this article—Jason Johnson, chief strategist for Cruz for President, said that “the document itself does not purport to be a list of ‘registered Canadian voters.’ All this might conceivably establish is that this list of individuals (maybe) lived at the given addresses. It says nothing about who was a citizen eligible to vote.”

Johnson added: Eleanor was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law. In short, she did not live in Canada long enough to be a Canadian citizen by the time Cruz was born in 1970: Canadian law required 5 years of permanent residence, and she moved to Canada in December 1967—only 3 years before Senator Cruz’s birth. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; marklevin; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; spuriousborn; trump
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
It's not natural or naturalized. It's common law versus statutory.

Where in the actual laws of our country does it mention "plain citizen"?

161 posted on 01/08/2016 9:05:19 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Citizen, Naturalized Citizen, or Natural born citizen. A child born of ONE citizen parent and a foreigner is a citizen. A child born of two citizen parents is a natural born citizen. Naturalized explains itself.


162 posted on 01/08/2016 9:06:06 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: All

All the US Supreme Court cases using the term NBC are found here:

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html


163 posted on 01/08/2016 9:07:32 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mollypitcher1; Toddsterpatriot

“Citizen, Naturalized Citizen, or Natural born citizen.”

Hmmm...three categories, based on a Constitution that only mentions two. Fascinating.


164 posted on 01/08/2016 9:08:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Dstorm

At the time of the constitution, that was correct because we were a patriarch society. Remember women did not vote.


165 posted on 01/08/2016 9:08:52 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

You are absolutely correct.


166 posted on 01/08/2016 9:11:48 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
A child born of ONE citizen parent and a foreigner is a citizen.

Great. Show the legislation that backs up this newest claim of yours.

Wondering which post of yours admitted that the US Constitution does not actually mention parent or parents.

167 posted on 01/08/2016 9:12:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Mr Rogers

Scroll down to the bottom of this post.
H/T georgiafl

Timeline for 14th Amendment:
1862 John Bingham declares a Natural Born Citizen as one who is born on the soil of parents not owing allegiance to any other sovereignty

1866 John Bingham again declares an NBC as one who is born on the soil of parents not owing allegiance to any other sovereignty

1868 John Binghams baby, the 14th Amendment is adopted into the US Constitution

1872 John Bingham, four years after the adoption of his 14th Amendment, STILL declares an NBC as one born on the soil of parents not owing allegiance to any other sovereignty

1875 Minor v. Happersett declares a natural born citizen as one who is born on the soil to citizen parents

1898 Wong Kim Ark uses the 14th Amendment to declare that WKA is a citizen from birth, but not a ‘natural born citizen’ as is clearly expressed in the decision by delineating between children born on the soil of a citizen and those born of an alien.

1968 Justice Hugo Black states in Duncan v. Louisiana that John Bingham is the best authority concerning the intent of the 14th Amendment

Ted Cruz Is Not Constitutionally Qualified To Be President; So Says the Supreme Court

<I>Supreme Court Cases that Cite ‘Natural Born Citizen’ as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents
Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)</I>

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html


168 posted on 01/08/2016 9:15:49 PM PST by KGeorge (I will miss you forever, Miss Mu. 7/1/2006- 11/16/2015)
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To: Mollypitcher1

You have explained nothing, you just have declared it. This is personal to me, and I’m sure to thousands of others who have had children born overseas. They were born there because I was serving my country in harm’s way protecting your sorry ass or your parents from being incinerated by the Soviets. My children are Natural Born American Citizens because they were born to a American Citizen Abroad. So is Ted Cruz because his mother was a American Citizen


169 posted on 01/08/2016 9:18:24 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Molly, unless there is a definitive Ruling citing a Law defining the term “Natural Born Citizen”, it doesn’t matter.

If there is a Law that reflects your belief, so be it. So far, you have not produced that Law.

You cited the Constitution as your source, yet that simply isn’t the case. As they say, it just isn’t in there.

Now, I am not trying be contrary and I certainly don’t want to make you angry. I am just stating the facts as I see them and they do not agree with your interpretation.

To be clear, I always thought that the NBC requirement was just as you think it is. I now know it isn’t quite that clear since any source outside the language in the Constitution or current Federal Law would not be held up in a Court of Law.

I will agree that at this point I don’t give a damn either.
The resolution to this issue is way above my Pay Grade.

Happy New Year. It’s going to be a doozy.


170 posted on 01/08/2016 9:21:23 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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To: KGeorge

Also Publius-Huldah’s blog post here

The Constitution, Vattel, and ‘Natural Born Citizen: What Our Framers Knew

https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/the-constitution-vattel-and-natural-born-citizen-what-our-framers-knew/


171 posted on 01/08/2016 9:21:42 PM PST by KGeorge (I will miss you forever, Miss Mu. 7/1/2006- 11/16/2015)
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To: Mollypitcher1
A Plain Citizen. he is NOT natural born because his father was not a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth.

So, if a "U.S. Citizen" father of a child should happen to die before said child is actually born, would that set of circumstances deprive said child of his "Natural Born Citizen" status? Does Vattel have anything to say about that?

Or if the citizen father should happen to have renounced his U.S. citizenship in the period of time between the conception and the birth of the child, what then?

I'm not myself fluent in French, so I'm relying on you to work through these intricacies.

172 posted on 01/08/2016 9:22:21 PM PST by DSH
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To: JoSixChip

Well I happen to live in one the states that is crucial to Trump winning the Presidency, this BS being spewed by Trump supporters may affect my vote if he’s the nominee


173 posted on 01/08/2016 9:37:08 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: hoosiermama; Amntn; RoosterRedux; HarleyLady27; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

PING!
More NBC talk - and this pertains to TRUMP NBC as well, though not in the same dark, questionable web of lies and deceit

People are at last talking -


174 posted on 01/08/2016 10:32:59 PM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: parksstp
If 2 American Citizens had a child in Virginia on American soil in 1800 and decided to move to France immediately after the child’s birth without renouncing their US Citizenship, and the child was raised their entire life in France and the culture and spoke fluent French, but in 1821 they decide to leave France to come back to America (Louisiana) where the 21 year old gets a job, eventually runs for Congress, takes a position in the Jackson Administration and then decide to run for President in 1836 after meeting the 14 year residency requirement, would you have a problem with this?

In 1800 it probably wouldn't matter what the original citizenship of the mother was, since she would be considered chattel property; she and the children would 'belong' to the father and so reflect his citizenship. But in the modern age, as long as the citizen parents resided in the USA for a 10 year period of time, basically from age 9 to 19 (five years after age 14-the law at the time of Cruz's birth) there should be no reason their foreign-raised child couldn't grow up and run for president (think military brats that spent their entire childhoods outside of the USA). Whether they could connect with the public enough to be elected by them is another story.

What curdles the soup is when only one parent is a citizen and the other parent chooses to become or remains a citizen of a different country (current Potus, Chinese baby-cation babies, Middleastern reverse-anchor babydaddies, etc.) Is the mother's citizenship primary or is the father's citizenship primary in determining 'natural born'? The Dem Party has set a precident with the current POTUS that the mother's citizenship is the only consideration. Do we reinforce that precident by electing Cruz? Was that the intent of the Founding Fathers? Would it solve the problem to have a 3 or 4 generation citizenry of both parents requirement?

175 posted on 01/08/2016 10:35:37 PM PST by blueplum
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To: Dstorm
Well I happen to live in one the states that is crucial to Trump winning the Presidency, this BS being spewed by Trump supporters may affect my vote if he's the nominee

Will you just write in Cruz, or vote for hitlery? Not that you really mater anyway. Any fool that would let people totally unaffiliated with a candidate affect ones vote for said candidate is not a very serious voter anyway. So I say "Good riddance"
176 posted on 01/08/2016 10:51:27 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip

I already think Trump is a blowhard, his supporters like you just reinforce my opinion. If you think my vote in Virginia doesn’t matter than your living in alternate reality, Clinton will not be a pushover and Trump would need all the votes he can get to win. Fool best describes you if that’s what you believe. Trump has not demonstrated to me that he has any conservative core values, and could be just as bad as Hillary, when it comes to social issues and Judges he will select for the SC.


177 posted on 01/09/2016 12:22:21 AM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: FR_addict

Records are not always 100% correct, if I may point that out. I recently saw a U.S. census record which listed my mom at her parents’ address when she was a youngster. They got both my mom’s middle name and her age at the time completely wrong.

If you’ll note, the article points out that Cruz’s mom had not been in the country long enough to be a Canadian citizen when Ted was born. My guess is that the voter rolls were wrong.


178 posted on 01/09/2016 2:26:40 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert ("Cruz." That's the answer.)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Her birth certificate is no proof that she did not relinquish her citizenship and take that of her husband, Canadian.

Assuming she wasn't a moron, unlike certain present company, why would she do that?

Her husband had upgraded from Cuban citizenship to Canadian. But why would she downgrade from American to Canadian??

Frankly, I believe neither Cruz nor Rubio are eligible under the constitution. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 clearly states that a NBC is born of two American parents on American soil.

It states nothing of the sort.

179 posted on 01/09/2016 2:34:57 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Mollypitcher1

You are 100% correct. As much as I like Cruz as a conservative and he is my second pick. He is a citizen but not a NBC which is constitutionally required to be president. Just because Obama got a pass doesn’t mean anything. The liberal media will crucify him in the general election on this and it good it came out in the primaries.


180 posted on 01/09/2016 2:49:45 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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