Posted on 01/07/2016 10:51:27 AM PST by Kaslin
Ethanol bad, butanol good
Ethanol is STUPID. It harms the environment. It’s bad for engines. It drives up food prices and has hidden cost for taxpayers. It’s also completely unnecessary.
Bad policy. Period.
Ethanol sucks, it drives fuel prices up (irony here is we can’t even make it, it has to be imported from other parts of the country, which means you also pay the additional costs of transportation); and it lowers engine efficiency and mileage. A bad deal all around.
Also, it is an incredibly stupid idea to rely on fuels made from plants. All you need is one bad blight, pest, disease or bad weather conditions to affect production and you’re screwed.
So they admit it was a policy solely based on getting votes.
Spread the word among muslims in America that every time they buy gasoline, they’re buying liquor and the imam-in-chief will issue an EO to outlaw gasohol.
It’s smart. It’s a good idea just to say stuff to get votes and give money to politicians to make money off their policies. I’m told that every day on FR.
I agree with you.
Add to that the fact that ethanol production increases demand for corn, driving up the cost of food products that are, or depend on, corn. Furthermore, dilute gasoline with an additive that’s 40 percent less efficient than gasoline. I’ve been curious as to what kind of mileage I’d get on my vehicles if I were running on “E-100” (100%) gasoline.
Buying votes.
We have local gas stations that offer real gas, and we pay the extra $ for it. I’d never put bad gas in our vehicles or small engines. Friend of mine in Milwaukee has a garage full of ruined small engines (snow blowers,etc), they can’t get real gas there.
Your friend needs to check with Lowes or some Farm equipment store for some additive that he can mix with the gas for the small enginges
Thanks! I was just visiting them this week and they were lamenting the 2 broken snow blowers in the garage. They had to hand shovel the snow from a week ago. My friend also has trouble with lawn mowers of course. It’s a shame what the ethanol lobby has done to everyone. I am sure our engines last a long time because we only use real gas.
While the production of fuel ethanol has increased the demand for corn, it has also increased the supply.
Oh, and ethanol isn't 40% less efficient than gasoline; it has about 40% fewer BTU's per unit, but it burns much more efficiently, so the mileage loss in a properly tuned vehicle is closer to 10%.
What's wrong with ethanol is its business model of applying its resources to lobbying for government favors rather than to developing a product attractive in the marketplace.
Not to mention that it is incredibly bad for internal combustion engines...
Yes, the questions were rhetorical.
I used to own an “FFV” vehicle. I would consistently drop from 20mpg to 16mpg whenever I filled up with E85. No idea why anyone (who wasn’t a corn grower or ethanol producer) why anyone would intentionally use it.
The government's notion that it could "mandate" that ethanol be used in an engine not optimized for it represents bad science and even worse public policy.
This whole ethanol additive continuation is because Iowa is the first Primary state.
They should remove the state to 45th or so on the calendar.
All the candidates have to pander to the corn farmers to get a leg up on the Iowa primary.
A pox on all of them.
—> the mileage loss is closer to 10%. <—
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If adding 10% alcohol to your fuel reduces your mileage by 10%,
then how is anybody - “saving” - anything?
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