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To: Wissa; Theo
Can you point to some items in the post that are factually incorrect?

Yes. The provided blog which is used to accuse Rafael Cruz of claiming his son 'anointed' is spun up bullsh*t. The video offered from the blog is an obvious hit piece. It takes less than 8 minutes of a 1 hr sermon and spins them falsely to create a nonsensical conclusion.

Here is the WHOLE service from that day. Cruz's sermon is about the last hour or so...

Does it talk about anointing? Yes it does. In a typical Pentecostal fashion. It is speaking to the congregation generally and about Christians generally. It never once selects anyone particular and claims a specific anointing.

And here are hours of Rafael Cruz preaching. Both in churches and at political events. Anyone with a true heart would listen to the man, at least as quickly as they listen to his detractors.

REALLY. You guys have to get your smear tactics in line. Is he the anointed king of the Christians or is he the conservative plant of CFR and Goldmann Sachs - because he can't be both.

all this crap-slinging just to justify voting for Trump. Y'all should be ashamed... If you still knew how.

103 posted on 01/03/2016 6:20:00 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; Wissa; Theo
Does it talk about anointing? Yes it does.

It clearly talks about the End Times transfer of wealth, and the "Kings" anointed to conquer the "market place" for the priests. There is no context in which the meaning of these words change. If I'm wrong, what does all that mean then, besides the obvious?

106 posted on 01/03/2016 6:23:33 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: roamer_1

Well said.


351 posted on 01/03/2016 9:07:30 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: roamer_1
Anyone with a true heart would listen to the man

Listen to a guy talk about stuff that is NOT in the bible? No friggin' way. Seven Mountains insanity is not Christianity.

573 posted on 01/03/2016 11:34:58 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: roamer_1

Bless you. Thanks for the links.


762 posted on 01/03/2016 2:03:12 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: roamer_1; Greetings_Puny_Humans

This seems to be the most significant post in the thread (for now) I’m still wading through it. I just wanted to mark this for myself for later review.

To me at first blush (without having watched the edited videos GPH provided or the full ones roamer did, again, as of right now hopefully I’ll have time later) but to me at first blush this doesn’t seem that significant a criticism as it seems to fall into, ironically, the kind of debates we have in the Religion forum, which reduce to basically: which brand of Christianity is best.

The main points that seem lost in GPH’s post, and really the only ones that could disqualify Cruz to anyone serious about his faith are: Does Cruz himself embrace this “Dominionism”? Does he (Cruz) reject the Trinity? Does he embrace any kind of “prosperity gospel”?

Again I’m not done reading the thread and really just wanted to save this post of roamer’s, but I think it’s worth pointing out that despite all the associations GPH shows, he doesn’t show that Cruz himself embraces anything New Agey or “prosperity gospelish”.

Those things, and/or if shown he rejects the Trinity, while claiming to be a Christian, would be a problem. But I’m not seeing that. And there’s still the video that roamer provides to examine for context. I will post something that demonstrates anything taken out of context I can assure you.


956 posted on 01/04/2016 9:46:39 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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