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The Obamacare Scam Just Got A Lot Worse
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/the-obamacare-scam-just-got-a-lot-worse ^ | V. Saxena

Posted on 01/01/2016 2:36:25 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

For the first time in American history, healthcare insurance has become too expensive to either buy or not buy, thus leaving many of us in quite the precarious financial dilemma, all courtesy the biggest scam ever pulled on the American people: Obamacare.

CNBC explained that the penalty for not purchasing healthcare insurance for 2016 will cost us an average of $738 to $1,450, depending on our income levels.

Those are just the expected averages, however. According to the actual Obamacare website, the penalty will be either 2.5 percent of our income or $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, to a maximum of $2,085, depending on which value comes out highest.

So if you wind up making $75,000 this year, for instance, and refrain from purchasing healthcare insurance, you will pay a penalty of $1,875, which is 2.5 percent of $75,000.

Likewise, those of you who do opt for health insurance will wind up paying significantly higher premiums coupled with higher deductibles and higher co-pays:

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Jr3yDMwCA

"How high?" you ask. I myself must pay about $3,000 a year for a plan with a $6,000 deductible and zero co-pays prior to the deductible being met. Yayyyy me …

So basically, regardless of whether we opt for insurance or not, we are slated to lose big time.

But we are not the only ones destined to lose. According to a report published by The Daily Signal several months prior, "Obamacare co-ops are failing at a rate of 50 percent" due to an inability to bring in more money than they pay out.

Like Cain TV contributor Dan Calabrese pointed out, "(T)he product is more expensive than ever, harder to buy than ever, and offers less value than ever."

"Why would anyone buy it?" he then asked:

Oh. Right. The penalty. First the government takes over health insurance and ruins it, then tries to force you to buy it anyway by taking your money from you anyway if you don't.

Yep. As far as I can tell, it's nothing but a scam … one that's being perpetrated on us, the American people!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; obamacarepenalty; obamacarepremiums; obamacarescam; zerocare
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1 posted on 01/01/2016 2:36:25 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Jr3yDMwCA


2 posted on 01/01/2016 2:36:46 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Those town hall meetings are going to be a hoot after folks start paying these penalties/taxes.


3 posted on 01/01/2016 2:40:09 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

4 posted on 01/01/2016 2:40:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
King Obama and his communists advisers designed Obamacare to destroy medical care. And they have fixed it so that now will be hard to eliminate and get the insurance companies to offer reasonable cost. This was the web of totally destroying America and turn it into a communists dictatorship. It has worked.

Wait until King Obama takes our guns away. He is working on that now and as America's dictator he will do it by the pen. Bet on it.

5 posted on 01/01/2016 2:43:52 PM PST by Logical me
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

This Bizarro World brought to you by DIMs/LIBs/RINOs...all traitors to their electorate and to their oath of office.


6 posted on 01/01/2016 2:45:17 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Logical me

Send your complaints to Chief Traitor John Roberts.


7 posted on 01/01/2016 2:49:06 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him); Charles Martel for President)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

One thing the average person needs to do is get smart on withholding immediately. I personally always owe the feds on April 15th. Never get a refund where the feds can take it from you. I know they can always garnish your bank accounts. Once that starts happening the pitch forks will come out big time.


8 posted on 01/01/2016 2:49:10 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

QUIT COMPLYING. We all voluntarily submit to the IRS and its dictates. The problem, fear of jail or more fines. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Somewhere around 100 million people supporting 230 million parasites, VOLUNTARILY!!!


9 posted on 01/01/2016 2:50:49 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (Go Cruz GO, scare the RINO's to death)
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Hopefully this will help Trump or Cruz.


10 posted on 01/01/2016 2:51:36 PM PST by teletech
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Please, people, it’s not a tax, it’s not a penalty, it’s an “Individual Shared Responsibility Payment”.


11 posted on 01/01/2016 2:56:01 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Logical me
Wait until King Obama takes our guns away. He is working on that now and as America's dictator he will do it by the pen. Bet on it.

He may take someone else's guns away but he won't take mine without a fight. If I become a story in the news, so be it. If they come after my guns they will probably eventually get them, but I will be knee deep in brass before they do.
12 posted on 01/01/2016 2:59:02 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All
Trump supporters need to let him know the following about unconstitutional Obamacare. Regardless what lawless Obamas activist justices want everybody to believe about the constitutionality of Obamacare, previous generations of justices had clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.

With respect to the Obamacare mandate which institutionally indoctrinated justices declared to be constitutional, especially note the fourth entry in the following list, the excerpt from Paul v. Virginia. The Paul opinion indicates that Court had clarified that the feds have no Commerce Clause power to regulate insurance regardless if an insurance policy is negotiated across state borders.

Remember in November !

Patriots need to support Trump, or whatever conservative they elect, by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the president.

An added bonus to such a Congress is that it can fire activist justices.

13 posted on 01/01/2016 3:00:01 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Logical me

I like the one poster that had something like “You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands. But be careful, the barrel will be very hot!”


14 posted on 01/01/2016 3:01:34 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Fresh Wind
"...it's an "Individual Shared Responsibility Payment"."

You gots a problem with that?

15 posted on 01/01/2016 3:02:38 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: mosaicwolf

” Once that starts happening the pitch forks will come out big time.”

“Pitchfork” would make a good trade name for an AR-15.


16 posted on 01/01/2016 3:04:19 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: hal ogen

There was a book put out some number of years ago, by Dr. Eric Berne, MD and psychoanalyst, who specialized in Transactional Analysis. One of the games described was “Try and Collect”.

“Try and Collect” (TAC) is commonly played by young married couples, and illustrates how a game is set up so that the player “wins” whichever way it goes. The Whites obtain all sorts of goods and services on credit, petty or luxurious, depending of their backgrounds and how they were taught to play by their parents or grandparents. If the creditor gives up after a few soft efforts to collect, then the Whites can enjoy their gains without penalty, and in this sense they win. If the creditor makes more strenuous attempts, then they enjoy the pleasures of the chase as well as the use of their purchases. The hard form of the game occurs if the creditor is determined to collect. In order to get his money he will have to resort to extreme measures. These usually have a coercive element - going to White’s employers or driving up to his house in a noisy, garish truck labeled in big letters COLLECTION AGENCY.

At this point there is a switch. White now knows that he will probably have to pay. But because of the coercive element, made clear in most cases by the “third letter”; from the collector (”If you do not appear at our office within 48 hours...”), White-feels peremptorily justified in getting angry; he now switches over to a variant of “Now I’ve Got You, You Son of a Bitch”. In this case he wins by demonstrating that the creditor is greedy, ruthless and untrustworthy. The two most obvious advantages of this are (1) it strengthens White’s existential position, which is a disguised form of “All creditors are grasping”, and (2) it offers a large external social gain, since he is now in a position to abuse the creditor openly to his friends without losing his own status as a “Good Joe”. He may also exploit further internal social gain by confronting the creditor himself. In addition, it vindicates his taking advantage of the credit system: if that is the way creditors are, as he has now shown, why pay anybody?

The IRS has entered into a dangerous game with an ENORMOUS number of people.


17 posted on 01/01/2016 3:04:48 PM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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18 posted on 01/01/2016 3:08:37 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’m 62. Even the bronze plan is so expensive that I can pass on insurance and not have to pay a penalty thanks to the 8% rule. To do it, I moved to KY, where my standard of living is MUCH cheaper and I keep my TAXABLE income below approximately $100,000. And because obamacare dramatically increases in price every year, I can continue to increase my income and still remain under the Minimum where I have to pay a penalty.

‘Course it means I don’t have insurance, but my wife and I saved $26,000 AFTER TAX dollars over two years. That’s roughly $1,100 a month. You can do a lot with that much money.

And the dirty little secret is that the price of health care is WAAAAAAAY cheaper if you don’t use insurance to pay for it.


19 posted on 01/01/2016 3:08:55 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Eventually, it will come down to:


20 posted on 01/01/2016 3:09:05 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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