Posted on 01/01/2016 2:36:25 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Those town hall meetings are going to be a hoot after folks start paying these penalties/taxes.
Wait until King Obama takes our guns away. He is working on that now and as America's dictator he will do it by the pen. Bet on it.
This Bizarro World brought to you by DIMs/LIBs/RINOs...all traitors to their electorate and to their oath of office.
Send your complaints to Chief Traitor John Roberts.
One thing the average person needs to do is get smart on withholding immediately. I personally always owe the feds on April 15th. Never get a refund where the feds can take it from you. I know they can always garnish your bank accounts. Once that starts happening the pitch forks will come out big time.
QUIT COMPLYING. We all voluntarily submit to the IRS and its dictates. The problem, fear of jail or more fines. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Somewhere around 100 million people supporting 230 million parasites, VOLUNTARILY!!!
Hopefully this will help Trump or Cruz.
Please, people, it’s not a tax, it’s not a penalty, it’s an “Individual Shared Responsibility Payment”.
With respect to the Obamacare mandate which institutionally indoctrinated justices declared to be constitutional, especially note the fourth entry in the following list, the excerpt from Paul v. Virginia. The Paul opinion indicates that Court had clarified that the feds have no Commerce Clause power to regulate insurance regardless if an insurance policy is negotiated across state borders.
State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added] - Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. - Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce [emphasis added] within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract of indemnity against loss. - Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress. - Linder v. United States, 1925.
Remember in November !
Patriots need to support Trump, or whatever conservative they elect, by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the president.
An added bonus to such a Congress is that it can fire activist justices.
I like the one poster that had something like “You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands. But be careful, the barrel will be very hot!”
You gots a problem with that?
” Once that starts happening the pitch forks will come out big time.”
“Pitchfork” would make a good trade name for an AR-15.
There was a book put out some number of years ago, by Dr. Eric Berne, MD and psychoanalyst, who specialized in Transactional Analysis. One of the games described was “Try and Collect”.
“Try and Collect” (TAC) is commonly played by young married couples, and illustrates how a game is set up so that the player “wins” whichever way it goes. The Whites obtain all sorts of goods and services on credit, petty or luxurious, depending of their backgrounds and how they were taught to play by their parents or grandparents. If the creditor gives up after a few soft efforts to collect, then the Whites can enjoy their gains without penalty, and in this sense they win. If the creditor makes more strenuous attempts, then they enjoy the pleasures of the chase as well as the use of their purchases. The hard form of the game occurs if the creditor is determined to collect. In order to get his money he will have to resort to extreme measures. These usually have a coercive element - going to White’s employers or driving up to his house in a noisy, garish truck labeled in big letters COLLECTION AGENCY.
At this point there is a switch. White now knows that he will probably have to pay. But because of the coercive element, made clear in most cases by the “third letter”; from the collector (”If you do not appear at our office within 48 hours...”), White-feels peremptorily justified in getting angry; he now switches over to a variant of “Now I’ve Got You, You Son of a Bitch”. In this case he wins by demonstrating that the creditor is greedy, ruthless and untrustworthy. The two most obvious advantages of this are (1) it strengthens White’s existential position, which is a disguised form of “All creditors are grasping”, and (2) it offers a large external social gain, since he is now in a position to abuse the creditor openly to his friends without losing his own status as a “Good Joe”. He may also exploit further internal social gain by confronting the creditor himself. In addition, it vindicates his taking advantage of the credit system: if that is the way creditors are, as he has now shown, why pay anybody?
The IRS has entered into a dangerous game with an ENORMOUS number of people.
I’m 62. Even the bronze plan is so expensive that I can pass on insurance and not have to pay a penalty thanks to the 8% rule. To do it, I moved to KY, where my standard of living is MUCH cheaper and I keep my TAXABLE income below approximately $100,000. And because obamacare dramatically increases in price every year, I can continue to increase my income and still remain under the Minimum where I have to pay a penalty.
‘Course it means I don’t have insurance, but my wife and I saved $26,000 AFTER TAX dollars over two years. That’s roughly $1,100 a month. You can do a lot with that much money.
And the dirty little secret is that the price of health care is WAAAAAAAY cheaper if you don’t use insurance to pay for it.
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