Posted on 12/27/2015 6:14:11 PM PST by cradle of freedom
Everyone seems to be scratching their heads now trying to figure out the difference between a moderate Muslim or an extreme or radicalized Muslim because all the talking heads seem to agree that moderate Muslims are good but radical or extreme Muslims are bad. So how do we know who is a good Muslim and who is a extreme Muslim?
Let's go back to the beginning of Islam. How did Mohammed spread his teachings? He gathered a small army together and began attacking Arab tribes, one tribe at a time. When he won the battle he would force the other tribe to convert to Islam and join his army or they would be killed. If they joined they would share in the booty of conquest with Mohammed's band, if they refused they would be killed.
Mohammed eventually united all of the Arab tribes under the banner of Islam which gave him a very large army that was comparable to the armies of nations surrounding the Arabs. Then they were equals to the other nations around them.
Mohammed began attacking neighboring countries with his army. He would cross into another country with this army and wage war. Then when the time was right he would attack a second country etc.
Eventually Muslim armies controlled lands from Portugal and Morocco all the way to Indonesia. Each time he crossed into another country, it was an act of war. We call that invasion, it was not a friendly act. Mohammed did not send apostles as Jesus did--he send armies. Every invasion was an act of violence. There was nothing peaceful about it. That is how Islam began and no one can dispute that simple fact.
So do you tell a moderate Muslim from an extreme Muslim?
I was watching a documentary about the early church yesterday. The several persecutions of the Roman emperors were discussed. Two things came to mind; first the Roman emperors attacks on the Christians were haphazard and second the pagan religions were loosely organized. It is like the devil used the Roman emperors to wipe out Christianity but it didn’t work. A few centuries later he came back with a much more methodical system—Islam. Islam is systematic and has a religion which is a substitute for Christianity. Mohammed and his demonic assistants succeeded where the emperors failed.
The radical muslim is impatient and the moderate muslim is patient. The ultimate goal of the radicals and the moderates is the same.
If Satan could start his own religion, it would be Islam. He did, and it is. He will come to his end with Islam.
Convert or die is pretty extreme.
Islam is a warrior creed, that awards its soldiers with sex slaves, as many as you capture, as written in the Koran. It is a man’s creed as women are second class people, and polygamy allows 4 wives but unlimited concubines. Under Islamic apartheid, Jews and Christians must wear identifying clothing and must step off the sidewalk if a Muslim is coming. They must pay the Jizya (tax) to the Muslims, and the war tax will last as long as they are alive. In fact throughout history Muslims did not convert Christians and Jews because it would reduce their tax base, and it is designed to support their lives and descendant’s lives. The work ethic doesn’t apply to conquerors, and it is not considered an Islamic value.
The Caliphate exists under Isis. Having a physical Caliphate gives them the theological basis for offensive jihad and that is what is happening right now. ISIS is attacking their neighbors and taking more ground.
Al Azhar University in Egypt, the oldest Islamic university in the world and the centerpiece for understanding of Sunni Islam, states that ISIS is real Islam and they are not apostates!
Sharia law is incompatible with the Constitution, and will never be compatible. Moderate Muslims must disavow sharia law, and that is not happening.
Here are two stories. Jesus and the woman caught in adultery and a similar story of Mohammad and a woman caught in adultery.
This shows the difference between Christianity and Islam.
JESUS
From John 8:2-11
At dawn He (Jesus) appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap in order to have a basis to accuse Him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with His finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one sir”, she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
MUHAMMAD
From the Hadith of Abu Dawud, #4428
“Buraidah said: “A woman of Ghamid came to the Prophet and said: “I have committed fornication”, He said: “Go back”. She returned and on the next day she came to him again, and said: “Perhaps you want to send me back as you did to Maiz b. Malik. I swear by Allah, I am pregnant.” He said to her: “Go back”. She then returned and came to him the next day. He said to her: “Go back until you give birth to the child.” She then returned. When she gave birth to the child she brought the child to him, and said: “Here it is! I have given birth to it.” He said: “Go back, and suckle him until you wean him.” When she had weaned him, she brought him to him with something in his hand which he was eating. The boy was then given to a certain man of the Muslims and he (the prophet) commanded regarding her. So a pit was dug for her, and he gave orders about her and she was stoned to death. Khalid was one of those who were throwing stones at her. He threw a stone at her. When a drop of blood fell on his cheek, he abused her. The prophet said to him: “Gently, Khalid. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, she has repented to such an extent that if one who wrongfully takes an extra tax were to repent to a like extent, he would be forgiven”. Then giving command regarding her, prayed over her and she was buried.””
“Go back until you give birth to the child.... The boy was then given to a certain man of the Muslims and he (the prophet) commanded regarding her. So a pit was dug for her, and he gave orders about her and she was stoned to death.”
See! Mo was anti-abortion!
Neither. It is not a religion. It is a death cult; just like Hitler’s Nazis.
The view that all non-believers are pigs and the son of dogs is the moderate view within Islam.
Sadly, this is how the moderates tend to poll. They tend not to detest the violence on principle.
I’d laugh in their faces with an oink woof.
They went deeper, but still could not make the church cease to exist.
Per the headline.
ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION; it is a SOCIO-POLITICAL SYSTEM designed to extort and oppress non-adherents.
A moderate Muzzie is an extremist that hasn’t come to bat yet.
Fascist political group.
If you want to be a better Christian, you start forgiving everybody and give your s*** away.
If you want to be a better Muslim, you start killing everybody who isn't EXACTLY like you!
No such thing as a real Muslim who is moderate. The goal line is Sharia law administered by a theocratic caliphate. It is NOT compatible with democracy or human rights, as we knew them in the 20th century. No reformation is possible because there is too much text that cannot be deleted, modified, or re-interpreted without going against the tenets of the "religion". It would be like saying that believing that Jesus was Christ is not an "optional" point of view but an "extreme" and therefore totally forgettable. And, everybody knows that the words of the illiterate Mohammad were directly from Allah (especially his warnings about Jews), divine, and cannot be changed.
One of the great questions of the 21st century is: What is the true nature of Islam? There are two distinct answers to this question from the media and leaders. The popular message is that Islam is one of the great world religions, a peaceful religion, a foundation of world civilization, its Golden Age was the highpoint of history, and it preserved Western thought while we were in the Dark Ages. The alternative message is that Islam is a brutal, backward, woman abusing, violent, intellectually narrow ideology that is out to annihilate civilization.
Which side is right? How do we resolve this issue? Can it even be resolved? If we turn to the “experts†of any of the opinions, they will tell you that their view is correct. What then is the ultimate authority that will give us a firm foundation for reasoning and judgment about Islam?
Is it possible to use critical thought or must we just accept the authority of experts? There is way to achieve consensus about ideas that goes beyond expert opinion. The use of facts along with logic is the basis of critical thought. The ultimate form of critical thought uses measurements and numbers to resolve questions. This paper will use the foundational texts of Islam and measure the importance of ideas by how many words are given to concepts. The assumption is that the more content that is devoted to a subject, the greater the importance of the subject is. As an example: the Koran devotes 64% of its text to the subject of the unbeliever. This is assumed to imply that the unbeliever is important in Islamic doctrine.
The use of critical thought may seem counter-intuitive since many people view Islam as a religion that does not have a rational basis. Actually, Islam is not only rational; it is hyper-rational, but it uses another form of logic than the one we take for granted.
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Summary
Critical thought brings new insights to the study of Islam. Islam is not a matter of opinion, but has a solid rational basis in its foundational texts.
Simple statistics reveal the systemic nature of Islamic doctrine.
What do these cases demonstrate? Here are some of the principles that a simple statistical analysis shows:
statistical charts and further explanation at link
It sure as hell isn’t Christians or any other religion cept islam doing the terrorist crap out there.
Moderate? HOrse crap.
First you need to acknowledge that Islam is NOT a religion.
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