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Naval Special Warfare adopts the Glock 19
Loadout Room | December 22, 2015 | Scott Witner

Posted on 12/23/2015 1:07:30 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie

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To: CatOwner

“What’s wrong with Glock Gen4? (sorry, researching handguns)”

After reading a bunch of complaints about the Glock Gen 3 and 4 malfunctions I decided to stick with the Gen 2. Few if anyone complained about Gen 2 reliability. True you give up the light rail and finger grooves but IMO they are of doubtful utility. Gen 2’s legendary reliability made the company.


41 posted on 12/23/2015 3:11:25 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I’ve been thinking of getting an LCP to carry. I like the fact that it can truly be a pocket gun, and I like the double action trigger. I’m a fairly big guy so I’m not too worried about recoil or limp wristing. The one I’d really like is the Sig P238 — an ultra cool little snack sized 1911, as you probably know — but I worry about the single action trigger getting me into trouble unless I sink quite a bit of time into training with it.


42 posted on 12/23/2015 3:25:17 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: ThunderSleeps
I would only recommend against one firearm, a Ruger LCP 380

I'm inclined to agree. It's too light. Too much recoil in that little package. The SIG P238 has more mass and a nice SAO trigger. Much easier to shoot accurately.

43 posted on 12/23/2015 3:36:34 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I never took Naval Special Warfare for suckers, yet here we are. They must all have dainty hands with gloves on to want the sawed off G19 with those miserable finger bumps molded into every last one of them. Hogue is gonna make some money on hand-alls in the wake of this move.


44 posted on 12/23/2015 3:45:47 PM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Goldsborough

No doubt they will be customized at most for $400 a copy plus electronics.


45 posted on 12/23/2015 3:51:03 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Know nothing about guns but I’ve been told Glock 19’s are spray and pray type weapons. I know in the hands of a well trained professional it would be more than that, but is that its appeal to civilian gun owners?


46 posted on 12/23/2015 3:53:15 PM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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To: Fhios

Who ever is telling you that, you need to stop listening to,they are totally full
of crap.


47 posted on 12/23/2015 4:04:28 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: Fhios
With respect, anyone using the term "spray and pray" with respect to firearms is an idiot whose advice in the matter may safely be disregarded. The Glock 19 fires single aimed shots along an axis produced by fixed sights. If those sights are on, which is usually the case from the factory, then reliable A-zone hits are quite feasible by an average shooter at a range of 25 meters or so.

May I gently suggest a trip to a local range for come classes? You'd enjoy them, I think. Might even end up with a Glock of your own. Best to you.

48 posted on 12/23/2015 4:04:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Fhios

“Know nothing about guns but I’ve been told Glock 19’s are spray and pray type weapons. I know in the hands of a well trained professional it would be more than that, but is that its appeal to civilian gun owners?”

Some people stuck in the firearm stone age can’t accept that there have been any worthwhile advances in handgun design or capability since the start of the 20th century. They think any handgun with a capacity greater than 8 is the work of the devil.


49 posted on 12/23/2015 4:16:12 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: Fhios

Having worked as a trainer/operator with the Iraqi Army, I know a little about “Spray and Pray”. That does not describe a Glock. I recently acquired my first Glock, and found it to be a reliable, extraordinarily accurate weapon.

Sorry about your experiences. /S


50 posted on 12/23/2015 4:22:22 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: Billthedrill

I shot a Glock 19 and Glock 17 in 1990 at a shooting range in San Diego. I couldn’t empty the clip of the Glock 19 in rapid fire at the target before my hands cramped up. I must have some built in marksmanship cause when my friend looked at the target he said “Holy crap”.


51 posted on 12/23/2015 4:33:59 PM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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To: Fhios

Oh you’ve done it now.

You said clip instead of magazine.


52 posted on 12/23/2015 4:40:07 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

Ooooo Noooo’s in my best Minnesota accent.


53 posted on 12/23/2015 4:42:14 PM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I’m surprised OBama even allows the military to carry fire arms.

Glock is a fine weapon. Easy to maintain, cheap, light, thousands of accessories, AND a 5 minute drop in kit to convert it to full auto.

I never cared for the grip though.


54 posted on 12/23/2015 5:08:47 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: CatOwner
What’s wrong with Glock Gen4? (sorry, researching handguns)

Probably nothing, but I wouldn't know - they aren't on California's roster of handguns we hoi-polloi are allowed to purchase.

I went with the Sig Sauer P226.
55 posted on 12/23/2015 5:14:53 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Fhios

If you can’t hit it with a Glock within pistol range you won’t hit it anything else. They are pedestrian but top tier just the same. I’ve had quite a few semi-auto’s and the Glocks are the only ones that have never ever failed. You can spend a whole lot more and get less reliability. There are a lot of fine pistols out there but the Glock hits the sweet spot for me.

I have 2 Glocks, a 34 and a 19. The 34 makes very very tight groups and the 19 not so much. An aftermarket trigger is a must and improves accuracy immensely and very easy thing to do.

The best thing about Glocks is they are very low profile sitting low over your hand and inertia causes the muzzle to not flip up so much giving you more rapid fire. All semi pistols have a lot of inertia from the slide and spring action.

At the top tier of pistols accuracy is a function of the shooter adapting to the weapon and adapting the weapon to the shooter. Only practice helps.

For pure accuracy you can’t beat a 6” .357 revolver.


56 posted on 12/23/2015 6:01:34 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Anyone know who invented the pistol slide?

Hint: His initials are JMB.

It is rare to see a pistol now which does not have a slide. In the early days there were a lot such as the Mauser, Luger and Nambu.


57 posted on 12/23/2015 6:06:12 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

Probably one or two revolvers out there.


58 posted on 12/23/2015 6:09:17 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I guess I should have excluded single shot pistols but revolvers and generally not called pistols.


59 posted on 12/23/2015 6:10:59 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Fhios

The pros don’t “spray and pray”. Glocks are plenty accurate - - even more so with good sights and a Lone Wolf, KKM or Wilson Combat barrel upgrade.


60 posted on 12/23/2015 6:27:48 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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