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To: Cold Heat
There is no excuse for supporting Ethanol,

Ethanol represents thousands of jobs to Iowans.

That will definitely affect most Iowan voters and the choice they make.

Jobs are a priority with Iowans, and all across the Country..

I'm not an ethanol advocate but I'd prefer to continue to have it rather than have more Americans out of work.

Talk to the coal miners up in Kentucky and what Obama has done to them.

Cruz is liable to go backward in his polling numbers with iowa voters if he persists.

I know you and any Cruz supporter doesn't want to hear that but that's the reality.

17 posted on 12/12/2015 12:12:05 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

Cruz will stick to his guns on this one.

It’s going to be interesting how Iowa pans out. Cruz has the evangelicals locked up, but King Corn is powerful and could put the hurt on him.

also big news - a poll is coming out tomorrow that will have Cruz ahead in Iowa. As i’ve said many times today - may the best man win!


27 posted on 12/12/2015 12:27:37 AM PST by SteveSCH
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To: VideoDoctor

There are times for realpolitik. Trump understands it.


29 posted on 12/12/2015 12:28:58 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: VideoDoctor

Awhile ago Cruz was asked about ethanol at a town-hall meeting in Iowa. He said something like “Well - I’m from Texas. We have lots of farms and crops down in Texas too. Corn ethanol is another resource farmers in Iowa and Texas can grow and make money from. So I’m for ethanol. But, and here’s where I might get your wrath - I’m not for the government subsidies that make ethanol worth it. I know the easy thing would be to come to Iowa and say I’m for subsidies. But, I think you want someone who will do what they say, and not just say what you want to hear. And I say let the market decide what the farmer grows. Big government doesn’t need to be in the family farm. Heck - that’s what I’m campaigning against - our government is big enough and intrudes enough already!” He got a good round of applause.


35 posted on 12/12/2015 12:32:47 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: VideoDoctor

I hear the “jobs” argument in a lot of places like Alabama where the RINO governor Bentley came out and said he was not going to speak out against ‘gay marriage’ because of his concern for “jobs” for the people of Alabama.


36 posted on 12/12/2015 12:34:31 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: VideoDoctor
Ethanol represents thousands of jobs to Iowans.

Actually, you would have to prove that to me..

I live in a AG state, Farmers here plant what makes money for them and they make these decisions based on demand and price. The farm would still operate regardless of ethanol.

Ethanol, is a government created demand. It's a blatant case of interference in markets.

Like all government interventions in the market, even including taxes, these created markets never go away, no matter how temporary they are. It's federal government graft and corruption that never ends....

If a State and it's citizens want to engage in this, it is their constitutional right to do so and to send their constituents the bill.

But it's not the purview of the federal government to do it.

39 posted on 12/12/2015 12:37:01 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: VideoDoctor
Cruz is liable to go backward in his polling numbers with iowa voters if he persists.

So he should put conservative principles aside in Iowa in order to boost his campaign?

Most candidates would.

But Cruz' track record speaks for itself. He's conservative even when it doesn't serve his self interest. This used to be called being principled.

115 posted on 12/12/2015 4:24:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: VideoDoctor

No, it is not reality. Cruz has told and campaigned as such in Iowa since the beginning and his support there has done nothing but increased.

The subsidy has to stop, just like the windmill subsidy has to stop.


131 posted on 12/12/2015 6:04:34 AM PST by biff
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To: VideoDoctor

So you really don’t see a difference between the government aggressively putting a viable industry like coal out of business and ending subsidies for boondogles like ethanol (and wind, solar, etc)?

Funny crop of conservatives we’re growing these days.

Hank


143 posted on 12/12/2015 8:02:53 AM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Eat Hooterville Rutabagas!)
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To: VideoDoctor

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>> “Cruz is liable to go backward in his polling numbers with iowa voters if he persists.” <<

Which proves that he is the sole candidate with moral integrity, and understanding of the disaster that Corn for Fuel has shown itself to be.
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159 posted on 12/12/2015 10:54:35 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: VideoDoctor
I'm not an ethanol advocate but I'd prefer to continue to have it rather than have more Americans out of work.

Well, at least you're honest about being a big government type.

189 posted on 12/12/2015 11:50:46 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: VideoDoctor

That is correct. One ha to be both brave and a principled conservative to admit to Iowa voters that you do not support ethanol subsidies.


207 posted on 12/12/2015 12:24:07 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: VideoDoctor
Cruz is liable to go backward in his polling numbers with iowa voters if he persists.

Since this is the same position he had when he got those big poll numbers, how do you figure? He has been open about his position on this issue for a long time.

213 posted on 12/12/2015 12:38:49 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: VideoDoctor

Steve Deace said only the RINO voters who would never vote for Cruz or Trump care about ethanol subsidies.

The analogy to coal is totally bogus. Obama is using regulations to STOP the free mining of coal. That’s opposed to using regulations and taxpayer money to prop up ethanol which is not cost-effective on its own. Probably dramatically so now that gas is so cheap.

The government needs to GET OUT of subsidizing all this crap. If you can’t stand up for basic free market principles, you’re not a conservative. If you believe the government should use taxpayer money to “give people jobs,” you’re a liberal.


256 posted on 12/13/2015 7:04:16 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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