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Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: conservative98

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>> “False. Trump said nothing about ethanol subsidies.” <<

Wrong. - Ethanol cannot compete with proper use of the land without subsidies.
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161 posted on 12/12/2015 11:02:30 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Red Steel

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>> “There are times for realpolitik. Trump understands it.” <<

An amusing slogan.

Trump has lived his entire adult life involved in questionable politics. He buys elected thugs cheaply.

None of his signature projects could have been done without stooping to that level.
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162 posted on 12/12/2015 11:07:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SteveSCH

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I think you’re sick.


163 posted on 12/12/2015 11:09:11 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Red Steel

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Another CNN fan, huh!
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164 posted on 12/12/2015 11:10:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Trump is wrong on ethanol subsidies. The best argument for ethanol subsidies is that they should be phased out rather than just ended. As Huckabee says, it's not the farmers' fault that the government EPA went whole hog on this and involved the farmers in it. The good news is that 'gallon for gallon' is true but that overall return is not true. While gallon for gallon gasoline is cheaper, it is barely ever mentioned that the fermented corn used to make ethanol is STILL good for livestock feed.

So, it gets double use, and that really should be part of the value analysis and it seldom is.

So, I support Trump's position to the extent it eventually phases out subsidies, and I support Cruz's position to the extent it phases out subsidies. And the phaseout should be based on the total value and not only on 'gallon to gallon' value.

165 posted on 12/12/2015 11:12:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Nextrush

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>> “Well Cruz criticized Trump the day before” <<

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No, he simply stated that he disagreed with Trump’s position.

He made no false allegations WRT Trump.

Trump made several provably false allegations WRT Cruz.

Let’s keep it straight.


166 posted on 12/12/2015 11:14:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cold Heat

“Why do you think Beef, Pork, and Poultry prices have doubled in the last few years and with the new mandate of 15% mix, will continue to rise.”

The price of all the other crops (wheat, soy, etc.) has also increased because those crops have been replaced by ethanol corn. Even the Greenies are moving/have moved against ethanol because of all the water it takes to grow the corn (way more than wheat) and also to process it into ethanol.


167 posted on 12/12/2015 11:18:11 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: topfile; Cincinatus' Wife

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CW: “Something else I’m noticing, the MSM is promoting Trump”

TF: “With respect, I think you’re the only person in America seeing that.”

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Sorry TF, but everyone in America that is paying attention is seeing that in vivid Technicolor.

Only Trump sycophants fail to see the Media doing all they can to keep Trump constantly visible, with long spots of face time to make his assertions for free.

The MSM should have to register as a Trump Super PAC.
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168 posted on 12/12/2015 11:21:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The MSM should have to register as a Trump Super PAC.

(Shhhhhh....) Heh heh heh.

169 posted on 12/12/2015 11:22:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: editor-surveyor

Certainly not relying on the pollsters from the leftist Moonbats at Monmouth U.


170 posted on 12/12/2015 11:24:51 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Oceander

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Mandating Ethanol in gasoline is itself a carefully crafted subsidy to the growers that consent to taking their land out of food production, which is a part of UN Agenda 21, intended to reduce the population through starvation.
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171 posted on 12/12/2015 11:26:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: stanne

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Trump is definitely not “moving on to taking care of a country in trouble.”

He has moved into the opposition party to derail the coming conservative victory.
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172 posted on 12/12/2015 11:29:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SaveFerris
yep

You are quite wrong. All the post represents is someone with ZIP ZERO NADA except bluster to defend a candidate with a 26-year-long history of party-switching and leftist-moderate politics, who didn't even join the Republican party until it became the party of McCain - Romney.

Those who cannot argue facts, post cute little videos and insults.

173 posted on 12/12/2015 11:30:22 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Whatever


174 posted on 12/12/2015 11:33:15 AM PST by stanne
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To: woollyone

Amen — well said.


175 posted on 12/12/2015 11:33:28 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Red Steel

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>> “Certainly not relying on the pollsters from the leftist Moonbats...” <<

And Reuters, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox are not “leftist moonbats?”

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Strange world you live in!
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176 posted on 12/12/2015 11:35:51 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: samtheman
The point of these posts by Cincinatus Wife is to smear Trump.

I'm totally aware of that. I'm not a noob.

I was hoping she would respond directly to me.

177 posted on 12/12/2015 11:37:20 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: SaveFerris

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You’re getting easy to entertain. :o)


178 posted on 12/12/2015 11:38:11 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Mandating Ethanol in gasoline is itself a carefully crafted subsidy to the growers that consent to taking their land out of food production, which is a part of UN Agenda 21, intended to reduce the population through starvation.

Yeah, yeah yeah...people don't eat feed-corn. Growers feed the expended mash to livestock, it's better for them than the unfermented grain.

179 posted on 12/12/2015 11:39:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: samtheman

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Speaking the truth is usually not considered a smear unless it exposes Donnie-boy’s nakedness.
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180 posted on 12/12/2015 11:40:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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