Posted on 12/08/2015 2:29:20 PM PST by MacNaughton
... and, just like the millions more practicing muslims, have quietly gone along with the worldwide jihad.
I'm not sure what you mean by "secular muslims" who "hold no muslim beliefs". This club of death and destruction doesn't tolerate that. They cannot be muslim if they "hold no muslim beliefs". In fact, they'd be among the first to be exterminated by the practicing members of the ROT (religion of terror) if they reject muslim-ism in this way.
Oh, and where did you find that Trump said anything about "refusing entrance to the United States to American citizens returing home"? I must have missed that part. Cheers!
Yes, Islam is a religion (some would say an evil cult). And we musn’t discriminate against anyone based on their religion. Right? But is Islam no different than any other religion one could name? Of course it is very different. Its texts are replete with commands to do all manner of atrocities against the “infidel.†It advocates violence, discrimination against females (including pedophilia and honor killing), and other disgusting aspects of Sharia law and a whole lot more. My point in all this, if it’s not yet clear, is that discriminating against Muslims and Islam is unlike discriminating against any other religion. That important difference is the gorilla in the room that Trump’s critics choose to ignore.
I’d go further and kick all the current “moderate” muzzies out.
Yes, one of Trump's staffers gave an incorrect response. Trump went on to state his position again correcting this mistake by a staffer.
Do you have any evidence to suggest that he is wrong? I don't mean to be confrontational, I know that Trump has been badly misquoted and misconstrued by the press on many occasions and this may be one of them. But what I heard Trump say was very broad-brush. I didn't hear any exceptions.
During a Tuesday morning interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," however, Trump clarified that American Muslims would still be able to travel freely under his plan. "If a person is a Muslim and goes overseas and come back, they can come back. They are a citizen, that is different," Trump said.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/franklin-graham-and-trump-agree-on-muslims.html
The bearer of the most famous name in American Christianity the Reverend Franklin Graham, cares to differ with wimp Russell Moore.
“......we dont need more gun control,we need border patrol. No Muslims should be allowed into this country until there is a process in place to fully vet them. We have got to turn away those who could potentially pose a threat until this war with radical Islam is over.
Trick question?
Anyone advocating the incursion of Muslims into our nation, now reduced to pitiful status, is either a moron or one that has a death wish.
Russell Moore is a wolf in sheep’s clothing who is embedded in the SBC.
That a flaming lib like him could actually plant himself within the SBC’s leadership should make everybody take note at what is said at all of our pulpits.
Make them eat a ham sandwich
yep, the long list of obamma lies which have gone unanswered by any party, and sequential bs world events makes one wonder about it being a plan as a part of a military coup by foreign governments(not just Islamic) on the homeland USA ... Yes, Stop all immigration until we get this ship righted up again..
Let me explain what I mean. In the Muslim religion, you are Muslim by birth. You have no say in the matter and it's a life sentence. Some very brave people openly desert Islam and a risk death for apostasy.
Others, in far greater numbers just go on their way, live their lives as nominal but non-practicing, non-believing Muslims. MINOs, if you will. It would be great if these people would abandon Islam vocally and in great numbers. In fact I think this is a very necessary step world-wide in the process of ridding the Earth of this Islamic scourge. I encourage Muslim non-beleivers and skeptics to do just this whenever I can - I mean personally and in private. But I can't condemn them for their reluctance to go public. Most men are cowards, and especially where there are families and children at risk.
But, it's tough because these folks do live in fear of discovery. But take my word for it as someone involved in this sensitive outreach, there are lots of them.
As for Trump's statement, I was relying on this sentence for the article: This time, the Republican presidential frontrunner suggests that the United States should close the border to all Muslims including Muslim-Americans traveling abroad.
I have asked anyone to give me a link to any statement of Trump's to the contrary, and haven't seen one yet. All the statements that I have heard or read are very broad and don't specfically exclude citizens.
yep
Thanks. This is a welcome clarification.
What’s a “Gope”? Is that grope?
I don’t think this guy should be allowed to write editorials and make comments on hear say. He should quote trump and then make his point. Not regurgitate what the msm said about what trump said. I think that is called spreading gossip and there are tough biblical penalties for that.
This guy is a liar.
Trump NEVER said anything about not allowing Muslim-Americans to return to the U.S.
Trump said, They’re Americans. Of course they will be allowed to return.>>>>
this guy is one christian spreading gossip. His higher up should chastize him
When he amends it to suspending immigration and refugees from certain countries, >>>
i disagree mohammedanism/islam is a political system just like globull warming. it’s just you have to be a real believer to accept it’s crap. and it is out to replace our laws with theirs. everyone of the 50% should be shot for sedition.
Here is one of the courageous ones. The world needs thousands more like her.
When he amends it to bar people holding certain ideologies, sure. Of course that will require distinguishing radical from non radical Muslims. We once banned socialists, we can ban those who support radical Islam
covers that. You have to define the ideology, name it, ban it. Sounds like Alinsky, doesn't it, but he wasn't stupid.
The Trump plan, ask them if they're Muslim. I recognize he's not entirely serious from a policy perspective, rather generating publicity, but it's something we've not done since the late 18th, early 19th century, and even then it was about Catholics and Jews voting and holding office, not being allowed in the country.
We'll see, I acknowledge I don't like they way he approached the topic, but as the conversation develops and focuses on the points I raised, my mind could be changed. It's because of Trump's "outrageous" statements bills were introduced in both the House and Senate regarding refugees and Visa waiver, based on country of origin.
The Sharia thing depends on whether or not they're talking about conflict with US law, or religious issues. If, as I suspect, they're talking Sharia above US law, forget it.
"As part of the church’s mission, we believe we should seek to persuade our Muslim neighbors of the goodness and truth of the gospel."
With all due respect to Dr. Moore, please consider the following. While Muslims have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, I have major reservations about Dr. Moore saying that Christians should persuade our Muslim ”neighbors” about the good news of Jesus. After all, John 15:24 shows that Jesus told his apostles at the Last Supper that regardless that Jesus had performed miracles that people still hated Him.
In fact, note that Mark 6:11 shows that Jesus had instructed his disciples that when they leave a town that did not welcome them or listen to their words to shake the dust from their feet - as a testimony against that town.
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