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Donald Trump the Conversation Starter: Now That He's Brought the Issue of Muslim Immigration up ...
National Review ^ | 12/07/2015 | By Mark Krikorian

Posted on 12/08/2015 6:39:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: elections; immigration; muslims; terrorism; trump
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1 posted on 12/08/2015 6:39:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is setting the debate and the ‘hard right’ position.

Now when there’s a Senate proposal to let Muslims travel but bans new immigration, that’s the moderate position.

Trump is taking the heat and helping conservatives.

Was anyone talking about a wall or illegal immigration?


2 posted on 12/08/2015 6:42:10 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

This is an interesting piece of history......

In 1786, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson met with Arab diplomats from Tunisia, who were conducting terror raids and piracy against American ships (Barbary Pirates). Writing to John Jay, Thomas Jefferson described what he saw as the main issue and the reason why they were attacking Americans who had done them no harm. The following quote is from Thomas Jefferson....

“We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their pretensions to make war upon a Nation who had done them no Injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our Friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. THE AMBASSADOR ANSWERED US THAT IT WAS FOUNDED ON THE LAWS OF THEIR PROPHET, THAT IT WAS WRITTEN IN THEIR KORAN, THAT ALL NATIONS WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THEIR AUTHORITY WERE SINNERS, THAT IT WAS THEIR RIGHT AND DUTY TO MAKE WAR UPON THEM WHEREVER THEY COULD BE FOUND, AND TO MAKE SLAVES OF ALL THEY COULD TAKE AS PRISONERS, AND THAT EVERY MUSSELMAN (MUSLIM) WHO SHOULD BE SLAIN IN BATTLE WAS SURE TO GO TO PARADISE”


3 posted on 12/08/2015 6:43:44 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do Poticians and Medians does under has a right come to the U.S.?


4 posted on 12/08/2015 6:44:28 AM PST by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those assuming a politically correct posture no doubt feel good about themselves but are essentially in denial regarding the threat. They might want to ask the families of the dead victims and those wounded by Malik and Farook what they think about a ban on Muslims. Face it. Islamic culture is simply not compatible with the values, practices and institutions of the West. Allowing massive Muslim migrations into the West over the past fifty years has been a catastrophe. The West will never know real security again.


5 posted on 12/08/2015 6:48:44 AM PST by allendale
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To: TigerClaws

Nope.

Without Trump, we would be talking about how can Jeb be so far ahead, and is it possible that Christie could pull an upset in Iowa. Scot Walker and Cruz would be splitting votes and blowing through money trying to get the church lady vote.

The big issue? Who will be the first to offer to forgive all college debt, and what guns should be banned.


6 posted on 12/08/2015 6:48:49 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile, Clinton the Joker goes on TV a lot these days and hysterically laughs her ass off like some kind of a loon. The woman is crazier than Obama and she hasn’t even spent a day as president. Think before you vote, America.


7 posted on 12/08/2015 6:50:23 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns.)
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To: VanDeKoik

They would have made Cruz the ‘right wing nut’ far out extreme guy.

Jeb would have been moderate.


8 posted on 12/08/2015 6:50:28 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind
I still do not believe Trump can win the Presidency, but I like the way he is controlling the debate.

Primary beneficiaries: Ted Cruz and the American people.

9 posted on 12/08/2015 6:51:18 AM PST by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Rather than simply point in outrage at Trump’s crude prescription, responsible policymakers should offer a grown-up alternative.”

“grown-up alternative”? He had to throw that in to keep Lowery off his back. You either either allow them in, or block them.


10 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:02 AM PST by odawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is absolutely correct

I Have been saying for years the USA needs to implement a travel ban with approx 15 Mid East and south Asian countries. Trump wants to simply say “all Muslims” but the point is the same


11 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:19 AM PST by PGR88
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To: TigerClaws

Step One should be to END the Teddy Kennedy Green Card Lottery Program TOMORROW!

As it stands now any schmuck on the street in Pakistan or Yemen can walk into our Embassy and toss his name in the hat to become the lucky winner of a Green Card.


12 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

TRUMP is correct.
Did we bring in Japs and Germans during WW2...
WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAMIC TERROR
can you go to the beach and pick out the dark crystals
WE HAVE NO MEANS TO VET AND HENCE SORRY YOU CAN’T COME HERE.
the democrat leadership has aligned itself with OUR ENEMIES
results speaks loud and clear ... OABAMA IS A FAILURE in the war against ISIS,
BECAUSE HE IS A TRAITOR....
The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and he funds it
ISIS is terror organization and he funds it (via Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Turkey and by refusing to shut down the oil flow) and arms it and wont really attack it...
He says climate is our biggeset threat.... utter nonsense
He brings us to the verge of national bankruptcy and ww3.... GIVES ENEMIES NUKES
We borrow money from China and then will have to provide trillions IN SUPPROT OF A RIDICULOUS POLITICAL HOAX....
Everything Obama says is a LIE, A DIVERSION from reality, A DELUSION... and DETRIMENTAL TO THE SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY....

Trump is resonating with people because he is using common sense and logic.....
Trump is no BS and will deal with national and international issues ina realistic way... NOT SOME LEFT WING FRUIT LOOP COMMIE MUSLIM APPROACH WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO FOR THE LAST 7+ YEARS...


13 posted on 12/08/2015 6:53:19 AM PST by zzwhale
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Trump is right and not just related to immediate terrorism. No freedom loving American should want Muslim communities growing as they have in Europe spreading an ideology that is openly hostile to liberty and intent on cultural dominance. This is not like importing Italians, Jews, Polish, Dutch, German or other European immigrants of which many of us are descendants. This is importing culture that is largely incompatible with the very idea of America and not only is that the case but we are also being swamped by third world neo-socialists.


14 posted on 12/08/2015 6:54:52 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Red Badger

The country’s ruling class.... business elites, political elites, and media elites... have become PARALYZED with totally SISSY-FIED and POLITICALLY CORRECT backbones worthy of WORMS and SNAKES.

The only person in this country giving UNQUALIFIED VOICE to the people being ‘victimized’ by the elite establishment, is non other than...... DONALD TRUMP!


15 posted on 12/08/2015 6:54:54 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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16 posted on 12/08/2015 6:54:56 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Muslims account for only about 1 percent of the U.S. population but account for about half of terrorist attacks since 9/11. That means Muslims in the United States are about 5,000 percent more likely to commit terrorist attacks than non-Muslims.

And there you go. That about says it all.

17 posted on 12/08/2015 6:55:59 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: SeekAndFind

Microaggression stuff.

Everyone is demanding safe spaces for Muslims.

As though their feelings outweigh our safety.

Frickin’ idiots.


18 posted on 12/08/2015 6:57:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: LibFreeUSA
totally SISSY-FIED and POLITICALLY CORRECT backbones worthy of WORMS and SNAKES


19 posted on 12/08/2015 6:57:07 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: TigerClaws

The poll of American Muslims yesterday revealed that 25% approve of the terrorism against the U.S. and 51% prefer Sharia Law to our court system.

What more do you need to know?


20 posted on 12/08/2015 6:57:33 AM PST by safetysign
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