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Using modern science to treat homosexuality
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/7/15 | Mark S. Latkovic

Posted on 12/08/2015 5:57:24 AM PST by wagglebee

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But man-woman sexual complementarity is so fundamental and so obvious—literally rooted in our bodily and psychological make-up—that only sin-induced blindness could prevent us (and our culture) from acknowledging it. The loss of (human) nature has, in fact, blocked many persons from seeing this anthropological fact as a fact.

That sums it up perfectly.

1 posted on 12/08/2015 5:57:24 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/08/2015 5:58:00 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Already a violation of law in California and several other states.


3 posted on 12/08/2015 5:59:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: wagglebee

Homosexuality will always be with us. What worked in the past was rigorous social repression of the worst aspects of male homosexuality. It is the celebration of it in today’s modern world that has led to a variety of problems.


4 posted on 12/08/2015 6:05:47 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: wagglebee
The only real cure for homosexuality (Sin) is Jesus Christ and His forgiveness.

People are too proud though.

5 posted on 12/08/2015 6:07:54 AM PST by PROCON ( islamonausea overcomes me. Brrrrpt.)
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To: wagglebee

Modern science treating perverse habits

6 posted on 12/08/2015 6:13:19 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: wagglebee

I have tried to argue, with my Lib friends and family members, that ‘if homosexuality is, in fact, normal, then without scientific intervention, our species would die out’. No one ever has a comeback against that. I do find that arguing the religious aspects of homosexuality falls on deaf ears with them (they really don’t care what Christianity dictates)......but Libs pride themselves on respecting the ‘Laws of Nature’.


7 posted on 12/08/2015 6:27:46 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: miss marmelstein

When cultures celebrate the perversions—the perversions will explode—because you warp all children inside toxic cultures-—like Nero’s days where he put on plays where he literally castrated boys and married his homosexual orgy buddies.

The Afghanis/Saudis (Shoebat) “think” sodomizing harems of boys is “good” and so it is a homosexual culture like the brutal Samurai/Spartan cultures-—since all boys grow up learning to lust and desire boys, men, goats, etc., and hate and mutilate women.

Virtue is learned and habituated in childhood-—if NOT learned and habit—then the culture will dissolve. Homosexuality is the result of a non-rational, evil culture. The irrational, vile acts on others remove dignity from human beings—which is just domination and never “love” or “rational” or “good”. Elimination of sexual morality is the Marxist/Freudian plan to destroy Christianity-—erase the worldview which creates Freedom. Vice is Slavery only-—always was and always will be. You can never be free if vice is promoted in the culture. That is why we have a Justice System-—not a Vice System (until abortion was “legal”—lol)

All behavior is learned and habituated-—and child abuse/sexualization causes warped perversions. Children who have these unnatural desires are warped/abused in childhood.

Worldview is created by formative years——the desires/attitudes will determine what they “desire”——by their early REAL life experiences-—but most are ARTIFICIAL and formed by perverts (the satanic Hollywood sodomites).

Yes-—the APA was taken over by sodomites in the 70s—to normalize their evil vile use of others. Homosexual “desires” have been successfully treated by good psychologists. It is possible to change the soul/desires/thoughts——it is called Christianity but that is why it is the only faith banned in the public square/schools.

The elites are forcing Evil to be Good in the minds of children-—to make slaves of the masses-—dumb ignorant drones-—Christianity created the Age of Reason and Modern Science and Classical Education (so people could “think”) so it HAS to go-—it is why the elites are flooding ignorant evil people into this nation-—to destroy the remnants of Christian culture.


8 posted on 12/08/2015 6:35:55 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Can’t argue with the article’s premise that homosexuality is a mental illness.
Pre politically correct <1970 APA believed that was so in their DSM manual.
The Catholic Church could take a leadership role and treat the many thousands of homosexuality priests within its ranks to reverse homosexual appetite.
It would be a win-win for both parishioners and church alike!


9 posted on 12/08/2015 6:39:56 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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"...I believe that clinical psychology—at least one with a sound philosophical anthropology—is most advantageous."

The article went off the rails at this point. Clinical psychology has helped NO ONE, because its premise on humanity is fatally flawed.

10 posted on 12/08/2015 6:46:05 AM PST by fwdude
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To: originalbuckeye

No-—Marxist and irrational atheists actually throw out the Laws of Nature because if they don’t-—they have to include the Lawmaker—God.

The Design in Naturel proves a Designer and is why Newton and all Modern Scientists were Christian—because they could actually apply mathematics to the Laws of Nature (because of Design).

Steven Meyer states it much better than I can-—but Right Reason and the “Justice ‘ (virtue) System of the USA is ONLY based on Reason/God’s Laws which St. Thomas Aquinas proved were the same (God’s Works/God’s Word) where there was no contradiction.

All irrational people/cultures/religions don’t have the Law of Non-Constradiction. Think about it-—Marxist want utopia-—it is irrational with human beings——they want radical egalitarianism where mother and father is eliminated-—is pure dehumanization—destroying the mother-nurture which is what makes us capable of being “human”. Homosexuals want to validate warped desires-—for degrading acts which eliminate meaning and dignity in human beings.-—all promote Vice—evil, vile uses of human beings which defy Reason, Natural Law and God’s Laws.

All Marxists/atheists/islamists—etc. are irrational and throw out Right Reason and the Laws of Nature——they all want to be god and determine good and evil.


11 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:09 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
Worldview is created by formative years--the desires/attitudes will determine what they "desire"--by their early REAL life experiences--but most are ARTIFICIAL and formed by perverts (the satanic Hollywood sodomites).

Could not agree more. When our first child started to notice television and what was going on, we decided to cut off all television, modern music and cable. We noticed a remarkable difference in all five of our children and the "normal" aspect of other children. The absence of the insidious thought patterns produced by most television programming pushes people into accepting ever greater levels of deviancy in their life.

Just as the original Christians fought against the coliseum and its destructive results in the lives of the Roman citizens, so must we constantly battle against the modern "culture" and its entertainment.
12 posted on 12/08/2015 7:07:15 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: savagesusie

Not so much my Lib relatives/friends. They believe in Gaia.....and that there isn’t evil, just misunderstandings. They are good soldiers of Obama, et al. They cannot though figure out how to dispute the ‘Laws of Nature’ in regards to homosexuality.


13 posted on 12/08/2015 7:16:45 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: wagglebee

Dr. Mark S. Latkovic is a very brave man. When the next-generation concentration camps are open for business he will be one of the first ones marched through the gates.


14 posted on 12/08/2015 7:19:58 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Agreed.


15 posted on 12/08/2015 7:43:51 AM PST by onedoug
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To: miss marmelstein

Inputs and outputs.

Homosexuality CAN be a moral issue, in that an otherwise heterosexual person decides to become a tri-sexual, in they will ‘try anything once’.

However, there is a mountain of science that indicates some homosexuality occurring ‘organically’. Kid grows up, good home, normal upbringing, not attracted to females, fights it their whole lives, ends up realizing they are homosexual and DESPERATELY WANTS TO CHANGE.

The eyes see things and the nose smells things, and the body responds inappropriately. That’s a medical condition, and not a moral one. It is specifically an electrochemical neural disorder that is worth scientific research and medical intervention.

Familiar with synesthesia? You see a color and it involuntarily causes your body to perceive it is smelling something. Red could cause you to smell pine oil. Blue like licorice.

I can’t think of a better institution with the resource available to study this issue. What if Catholic research could cure both homosexuality and pedophilia, or classes of these two conditions?

My opinion is that if they can figure out why otherwise normal people are attracted to either children or the same sex, and that research leads to an effective mitigation for it, why wouldn’t you approve of that effort.

I’m sure you’ve heard the joke about the guy on the roof in the flood, right? Guy comes by in a big truck to take him off the roof, but he waves the man off saying, “The Good Lord will take care of me. I’ll be OK.”

As the water rises past the top of the windows, another man comes by in a boat and asks the man to climb down into it. The guy on the roof waves him off and shouts over the din of the wind, “I’ll be fine, the Good Lord will take care of me.”

He started getting nervous, however, as the water was only two feet from the crest of his roof. Just then a USCG helicopter appears out of the rain and lowers a harness to pull him up. He hesitates, but waves off the chopper shouting, “I’LL BE FINE, THE GOOD LORD WILL TAKE CARE OF ME!!”

Not long after the flummoxed crew disappeared from site did the dam give way and sweep our faithful hero off his roof. He was carried down the valley that was already flooded, smack into a set of transmission lines that were still powered and it electrocuted him so violently he split open like an overboiled hot dog.

Fortunately, he didn’t feel much, and he floated away from his singed, bloated, burned and split open body still steaming in the torrential rain up toward the white light of salvation.

He found himself in a vast, open space. There was a single man there to greet him, and welcome him to Heaven. But the man was shaken, hurt, and angry at having been forsaken by God in his time of need.

The man, sensing his question, abandoned his kind demeanor and admonished this poor confused soul.

“Child, we sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter. It’s a good thing for you all that’s required is you accept the perfect gift of the salvation of the risen Christ, or you’d have had a far different experience than the one you are having now.”

Maybe the Catholics are building a boat. If so, more power too them. They are the only institution that could sithstand the onslaught of grief they will generate in even attempting such a thing.


16 posted on 12/08/2015 7:51:24 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: wagglebee

“This is nothing less than a disability. To be precise, it is a psychological disorder before it is anything else. This disorder can impede the exercise of one’s freedom. To what degree we are not always certain.”

Someone finally had to say and we need to accept that homosexuality is a disability. Until we are to accept that fact, treatment and policy development towards homosexuality under the Americans with Disabilities Act will never be enacted.


17 posted on 12/08/2015 7:58:38 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: RinaseaofDs

I prefer repression. Not cruelty but making it socially unacceptable to be a open homosexual as it certainly was in the 19th century. Even if there was a cure, many of today’s homosexuals would refuse to be treated. They like being gay and being a poke in the eye to society.


18 posted on 12/08/2015 7:59:02 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: miss marmelstein

You prefer repression to exploring any other possibly more effective means of allowing those that WANT TO CHANGE to do so?

Ever seen homosexuals go through that, ones that desperately want to change? Not only is it extremely difficult, it is in most cases very much less than effective. There was a day when people believed lepers lived outside the grace of God.

Your point, that there will always be some that CHOOSE to be homosexual is, of course, correct. Does that fact somehow impose some sort of moral barrier to finding a cure for other people afflicted by this who WANT to change?

In cases where NATURE is the issue, and not NURTURE, and not DEPRAVITY, I believe all people have the right to pursue a cure for what afflicts them. Legally, I actually think this freedom to pursue a cure is tied back into our inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness. Currently, the right of two homosexuals to be ‘happy’ trumps the right of a child to the love of either a mother or a father in their upbringing.

I am stupefied by the arrogance of same-sex couples in just waving off anyone that tries to ask them about whether they are OK with deciding for the child that they don’t get to have a mother. “They’re adopted! They are lucky to have anyone caring for them at all!!”

I admit being particularly pleased to watch lesbians grapple with the question. “Are you implying you as women can provide what a man can as a father? If so, you are also implying that a man can provide what a female can as a mother, right?” You want to talk about depravity - being forced to grow up around that as normal.

For all the grief Catholics take, it cannot be denied that they learned from the Reformation, and they learned from the Galileo debacle. Not many institutions, or individuals, learn from their mistakes.

Again, if the Catholics pursued something like this and prevailed (or didn’t?), why wouldn’t every Bible-believing Christian, or ignorant/arrogant atheist/agnostic for that matter, not support something like that?


19 posted on 12/08/2015 8:15:32 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

Look, if some scientific cure is found for homosexuality, I would have no objection. Why would I? But I think that repression of one aberrant behavior can actually bring about the repression of other aberrant behaviors. And God knows there are more problems out there besides homosexuality!


20 posted on 12/08/2015 8:23:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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