Taqiyya- lying to the infidels.
Hadn’t heard about this?
Notice how much attention the MSM has given it....ZILCH.
If they don’t report it, it hasn’t happened.
A group of reform-minded Muslims with connections to Terrorists ?
Zuhdi Jasser is OK but he also admits that he is clearly an apostate muslim and that getting the rest of islam to live in the modern world is a high hurdle.
Reformers have to take control of the mosques, infiltrate and expose the radical cells to authorities, and expel radical church leaders.
When that starts to happen progress can be made.
Don’t hold your breath.
Islam is unreformable. It was designed that way.
Islam is similar to a self-replicating supercomputer virus. It is a hydra-headed monster, designed by its creators to be an unstoppable formula for global conquest. It’s almost impossible to eradicate, because it has no central brain or control center. Islam is like a starfish: when you cut off a limb, another grows to replace it. The names of the Muslim leaders, and the names of their Islamic groups, are transitory and ultimately unimportant. Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are succeeded by Al-Baghdadi and the Islamic State, but they will all pass from the scene and be replaced by others. While Muslim leaders and regimes have come and gone, Islam itself has remained steadfastly at war with the non-Muslim world for 1,400 years.
Islam does not recognize secular national boundaries. To devout Muslims, there are only two significant realms of the world. First is the Dar al-Islam — the House of Islam, which is the land of the believers. The other is the Dar al-Harb — the House of War, which must be made Islamic by any means, including violent jihad. The expansion of Islam is sometimes held in check for long periods, but more often Islam is on the march, acquiring new territory. Once conquered by Islam, territory is rarely taken back, Spain being a notable exception.
The Muslim world produces almost no books or new inventions. Short of finding oil under their feet, most Islamic nations are backward and impoverished. So wherein lies the power source for Islam’s nearly constant expansion over the past fourteen centuries? The motor and the battery of Islam are the Koran and the Hadith, or sayings of Mohammed. A messianic Mahdi, Caliph or Ayatollah with sufficient charisma can accelerate Islam’s pace of conquest, but individual men are not the driving force.
Secular “Muslim in name only†strongmen from Saddam Hussein to Muamar Qadafi can hold Islamism in check for a period with brutal methods, but strongmen are often assassinated or otherwise removed from power, and in any event, they cannot live forever. Once the secular strongmen are gone, fanatical mullahs are able to stir their zealous Muslim followers into sufficient ardor to reinstall a radical Islamist regime under Sharia Law, according to the Koran.
This pattern of secular strongmen being followed by fanatical Islamist leaders has recurred many times over the past millennium and longer. Do not be fooled by modernists like King Abdullah of Jordan. To the true believer of Islam, any king or strongman is never more than a rifle shot or grenade toss away from being kinetically deposed, and replaced by another Islamist fanatic.
The persistent virulence of Mohammed’s 7th Century plan for global domination means that it is always ready to erupt in a fresh outbreak. Islam is like a brushfire or ringworm infection: it is dead and barren within the ring, but flares up where it parasitically feeds off the healthy non-Islamic societies around it. What produces this uniquely fanatical motivation, from within nations and peoples that otherwise seem devoid of energy and new ideas?
The motivation lies within the words of the Koran and Hadith. Most simply distilled, in the earthly realm, these Islamic texts offer immoral men sanction for thrill-killing, looting, raping, and capturing infidel slaves, and when these jihadists are killed, they are promised a perpetual orgy with seventy-two nubile virgin slave girls in Mohammed’s sick, evil and perverted Muslim paradise. Unlike the Jewish and Christian Bibles, the Koran and Hadith appeal not to man’s better angels, but to the darkest aspects of human nature. (Tellingly, Moses and Jesus are said to have climbed to mountaintops to communicate with their God, while Mohammed received his messages from Allah deep inside a bat cave.)
A meaningful or permanent reformation of Islam is impossible, because a new generation of fanatics, wielding the unexpurgated Koran and Hadith as their weapons, will always declare the reformists to be apostates and murder them. In Islam, the fanatics who are holding the unalterable Koran in one hand and a sword in the other always stand ready to seize complete power and exterminate their enemies.
This latent danger breeds fear and causes nearly all non-Muslims to be carefully circumspect in their dealings with Muslims, lest they lose their heads at a later date. This intentionally fostered fear of Islam is used as a cudgel against those who would otherwise resist its domination. The immutable Koran is the constant fountainhead of bloody Islamic conquest. Radical Islam is the pure Islam, the Koranic Islam, the real Islam.
Anyone who does not understand this bitter reality is dangerously ignorant of the past 1,400 years of human history.
Excerpt from my essay “Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive”
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/11/tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/
“Muslim Reform Movement Kicks Off in Washington, D.C.” Death Fatwah issued.
It sounds like a good idea
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BUT: can “Reformed Islam” be derived from the Koran? (rhetorical question - I realize)....
I notice they had no Koranic verses to back up their statements.
Pong
There is a buzz on social media today about a new Muslim Reform Movement, and any of you are wondering what this is all about. Here is some background: The Paris terrorism attacks seemed to be the last straw for many Muslims like us who abhor violence in the name of our faith.
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If 9/11 wasn’t the last straw, then Paris isn’t going to make any difference.
Muslim Brotherhood already reformed Islam and brought it to where it is today
Burn and delete every single copy of their warbook koran. Treat islam like we did with Nazism and make it go away.
I’m surprised we don’t have patriots burning their koran openly in these times. It could be used as bait for hunting koranimals.
So they are disavowing the life example of their founder Mohammed? That’s like a bunch of Christians going against the personal example and teaching of Jesus.
When Muslims are able to say that Mohammed (”The Perfect Man”) was highly flawed and committed numerous cruel and violent acts, I will begin to believe they are reforming. Christians and Jews (I assume) are able to see, for example, Moses and David this way. Accept the good but do not emulate the bad.
You can not reform a religion that tells you to kill and enslave. More muslim lies.
This initiative was started by Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, an ex-naval officer of the US Navy and now a physician. He invited thinkers, academics, activists and two imams from Copenhagen, London, Ottawa, Toronto, Phoenix, Philadelphia and Portland to gather for a 24-hour summit. We discussed and debated what we could do to go beyond words and start taking some action. After intense talks for two days, in which we debated terminology, ideas and theology, we came up with a declaration and a course of action.
This reeks to me as being similar to the 'Jesus Seminar' Group, where a bunch of scholarly seminarians - who are wise in their own minds - get together to search for the 'Historical Jesus'. I.e., a 'good man', and teacher, but 'certainly not the God-man that the early Church claimed He was' (is)...
A Christian is not going to spend time listening to the Jesus Seminar Group, nor do I suspect Muslims will spend time listening to this Group.
I do not see how these people get pas the giant obstacle called the Koran. People who swear allegiance to a book inspired by Satan are not going to be reformed with gentle nudges. The book needs to be moved to the trash heap, or to the malicious fiction section of the library.
WOW! They’re on the ball, aren’t they? Only took 14 years after 9/11 and all the terrorist acts/murders since.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
I am willing to afford this group the chance to try and reform islam. (If they succeed I will even capitalize islam).
But I am unwilling to forestall meaningful actions on my own part waiting for them to succeed.