Posted on 12/04/2015 6:54:18 AM PST by expat_panama
A few months ago, overhearing some ladies in the audience of a pro-Israel lecture trash Donald Trump, and clearly sensing that they were Obama fans, I turned to them and said, "At least he will be a huge improvement over the current inhabitant of the White House." They were greatly displeased.
But after reading this account of Mr. Trump's views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I think I owe those ladies an apology.
It turns out, after all, that Mr. Trump's views on the Middle East conflict are a carbon copy of Mr. Obama's. For one, Mr. Trump believes that it is up to Israel to make peace happen. He is apparently unaware of Palestinians' outright rejection of Israel's existence as a Jewish state. Secondly, Mr. Trump believes that solving the conflict is a central challenge, and so he promises to jump on it right at the onset of his presidency - as did Mr. Obama, having thought it was the key sore point that ruins the world's universal happiness.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I heard exactly the same thing. Trump was ready to protect Israel and Israel did not have to do anything it did not want to.
These Jews are shilling for Hillary.
Trump is not going to demand any thing of Israel, it's a Nation the same as America or Russia is, and no one has the right to tell another country what their going to do...it's that simple...and this corrupt government of the United States doesn't want to hear this...
Where did you see this “onus” business? I never heard Trump say this in his presentation before the Jewish audience. Total BS.
Watch the speech.
He said nothing of the kind. He did not want to tip his hand. You guys read too much into it. Trump is so pro Israel you must be blind. Trump said over and over again that Israel gave up too much as it is and has been treated very badly.
Did you listen to the speech?
Never listen to what the Leftist clown media say a Conservative or Republican said. Always look at the REAL statement.
What Trump actually said is that Israel would have to give up things for a deal. If Israel was UNWILLING to make those scarifies he would be fine with that.
What Trump said is he would basically stand the last 30 year of US-Israel relations on it head. Trump is saying he will end the current process of DC pressuring Israel to make deals Israel does not want.
I did listen to the speech, twice. He said Israel would have to be prepared to make more sacrifices to reach an agreement, or there would be no deal. He also would not commit to Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.
Another lying trash article by the Trump hating Cruz pushers. You are not doing Cruz any favors with your vicious lies about Trump. You are just turning off Trump supporters who might have backed Cruz as a number two.
He also said that if Israel did not like the process it had every right to walk away. As far as committing to the capital business, I saw Trump as not making decisions for Israel.
Who is running Israel? Trump or Bibi. I saw Trump as deferring to Bibi for now and not making decisions for him. He will be meeting with him shortly and he simply does not tip his hand. People read too much into this. And the booing was one guy.
It was not a whole chorus. Please calm down and wait to see how things unfold.
Unless you have another candidate you want and this is your way to knock down Trump.
A complete misrepresentation of what Donald Trump said.
And wrote that after the speech?
I actually watched the speech, if the other side(s) are that desperate to spin, they are so screwed. Trump received a sustained warm reception :
- Abby Friedman intro'd Trump a "mensch with chutzpah" *applause*
- Told the helo crash story of Trump gaming employees
- Mentions Trump daughter/granddaughters Jewish
Trump:
- I don't want your money .. We have virtually no money invested in ads .. Favorability at 50%; beat Hillary in Fox poll
- Fan and contributor to Jewish organization
- Obama is the worst thing to ever happen to Israel
- Why are you having Obama fund-raisers, he asks
- 43 million dollar gas station story in Afghan
- Obama gave Iran 150 billion, they can buy nukes, they don't have to make them
- Disses Iran deal hard *applause*
- Need our (US and Israel) prisoners back from Iran
- John Kerry did not read "The Art of the Deal" *laughter*
- When I win, the prisoners will be back
- Radical Islamic terrorism, "We have a President who refuses to say it, there's something going on with him that we don't know about." *applause*
- Hillary has to go along with Obama, and what she did was criminal with the emails, she shouldn't be allowed to run
- Gen. Petraeus given life-changing sentence, others went to jail .. if Hillary gets (off the reservation), Obama can send her to jail (permit indictment) ..
- She was a horrible Sec'y of State .. She doesn't have the strength or energy .. She has some "interesting" friends (indicating Huma)
- Bebe wanted me to do a commercial and I did
- Trump filed his financials, biggest ever filed, built a big company .. That's the kind of thinking we need .. Negotiation, that's what we need
- Berghdahl, they knew he was a traitor, 6 people killed looking for him .. I want to renegotiate that deal and drop Berghdahl back where he was picked up ..
- I'm going to win .. It's nice when you're #1 they give you Secret Service
- My life has been about winning and that's what I want to do for the country
- We owe 19 trillion dollars .. these Republican politicians .. I'm going to end Obamacare and replace it with something much better .. "they walk into the Capital Building and they say we've arrived, they become mainstream, they don't want to leave, they lose all of their courage, and they've let us down."
**to the crowd** You're not going to support me even through you know I will be the best thing for Israel. You're not going to support me because I don't want your money. Do you know the money I've turned down
- Jeb Bush with low-energy, it's sad .. raised 125 million dollars which means he's controlled totally .. You want to control your own politican that's fine
- 5 months ago I was with you! I gave 350000 to the Republican Governor's Association and never got a letter of thank you .. Not one letter from one governor .. Politicans forget, generally aren't competent, and are good at getting elected
- What's really important to me is the United States and Making America Great Again .. I had it trademarked
Q&A
Trip to Israel: Pali issue, Israel's committment to peace/tough sacrifices, what does that mean?
- Very fair story, Pali issue, I use that as an example of the hardest deals to make in history
- Sacrifices one way or the other .. it'll take six months .. will know very quickly whether or not it can be put together.. If I could do it would make me happy ..
- I don't know that either side has the committment to make it
- I have a good chance of winning given what's going on, I'd rather not give it away (all my cards)
- Obama gave up on this before he even started
- I think it would be a great thing for both sides
- Cites Bush letter to Sharon, no force to move to pre-67 borders
- PR for Israel hasn't been so great, haven't been given credit enough
- I want to go in with a clean slate
Jerusalem as undivided capital of Israel
- I want to wait until I meet with Bebe *ONE guy booing loudly*
- who is the wise guy? *laughter* Do me a favor just relax. Then you wonder why you get yourself in trouble. You'll be happy believe me.
Bebe
- Our president has been unbelievably rude to Bebe
- Iran deal as the worst single thing to ever happen to Israel .. I'm pretty good at predicting things .. It will be catastrophic
- I will straighten out Iran deal .. But the 150 billion will be gone before we get there
Arabs leaders can you work with
- I haven't made a lot of work with the other Arab leaders
- I took some heat because I get along with Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans ... (Before all this happened) I'm a business person we have to get along with everybody .. I live in Manhattan it's all Democrat ... GOP doesn't even run (for office) there ..
- Corporate inversions .. Pfizer leaving ... 2.5 trillion out of the country that companies can't bring back .. taxes too high .. they move the company to the money .. the GOP and Dems agree the money should come back, but they can't get it done
Hillary a friend of Israel?
- I don't know .. She says she is but all of a sudden maybe less so than you thought Bernie has brought her to positions she didn't want to be at .. she doesn't have the strength or the energy to help Israel
- She does an event and you don't see her for four or five days.
- Israel doesn't just need our support, they need our strength
- These people (enemies) fight dirty .. they're not the JV .. we need Patton, we need MacArthur
Rank in order greatest challenges: Russia, China, Radical Islam
- Radical Islam is the greatest .. global warming ISN'T .. to have this man embarass us by saying global warming is our biggest threat to mankind, we gotta get him out
You can hear them chuckle over this hit piece. It will be front and center on Megyn Kelly tonight. “this will fix that upstart Trump—This will end him! Get the Jews to pull the Lever for their “friend” Hillary. I do not buy this for a new york minute.
He was saying that is how Israel has been treated in the past and up until now. It was not a prescription for how he would treat Israel. Go view the entire speech.
Video: Donald Trump at the Republican Jewish Coalition Forum
I read it at breitbart. I don’t have a dog in this fight. Besides facts don’t mean much to trump supporters.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/12/04/report-trump-draws-jeers-at-jewish-republican-event-tells-crowd-he-
I really don’t care if they booed him or not. No interest in watching trump, I really don’t care, have seen enough of him and don’t care if they all gave him hugs and kisses or they all booed him. I care nothing about anything Trump. I thought I was making a middle of the road statement - Cruz A, Trump C. That is a fact. And no, I don’t care if dems get all the Jewish vote anyway.
It does not match anything I have heard Trump say about Israel. This guy has an agenda...another candidate or he’s a Democrat. He’s kinda lying.
Total B/S.
Your bitter attitude is disgusting. Why don’t you and your foulness stay off Trump threads since you don’t care?
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