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Multiple Victims Reported in San Bernardino Shooting (Another Mass Shooting)
NBC Los Angeles ^ | 12/2/2015 | Willian Avila

Posted on 12/02/2015 11:30:06 AM PST by BradtotheBone

Authorities are responding to a report of 20 victims in a shooting in San Bernardino on Wednesday.

The incident was reported in the 1300 block of S. Waterman Avenue (map), according to the San Bernardino Fire Department.

Story developing...

(Excerpt) Read more at nbclosangeles.com ...


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To: Lazamataz

Is the strap on Ur Tin-Foil helmet too tight; restricting blood flow?


81 posted on 12/02/2015 11:49:27 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: WENDLE

Exactly, that is my question as well, if they were wearing ski masks who can tell the race when a ski mask is blocking it


82 posted on 12/02/2015 11:49:27 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BradtotheBone

White, Christian, Conservative, Tea Party, Rayzist, Homophobes, no doubt.


83 posted on 12/02/2015 11:49:39 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: daltec

I’m Pretty sure these are Christian white men upset over a golf bet.


84 posted on 12/02/2015 11:49:46 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

My ? as well.


85 posted on 12/02/2015 11:50:01 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Chgogal

I wonder if his mascara is running yet?


86 posted on 12/02/2015 11:50:02 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: Paladin2

Enjoy your day.


87 posted on 12/02/2015 11:50:33 AM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: Blue Jays

Then again, per #41, we also know ISIS & friends want to perpetrate terrorist attacks ... again, with suitable agitation & opportunity we’ll predictably have attacks in a given timeframe.

Not “false flag” per se, but still coordinating of statistical likelihoods.


88 posted on 12/02/2015 11:50:47 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: rdl6989

On Twitter they’re desperately trying to tie it to pp facility across the street.


89 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:01 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Chgogal

jen hutton heger ‏@jenheger 3m3 minutes ago
Another mass shooting, San Bernadino, social services building serving people w/disabilities. ABC reporting 12 dead. Unbelievable.


90 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:11 AM PST by jennychase
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To: rainee
FALSE FLAG!!!
91 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:14 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: BradtotheBone

Please Freepers let’s be cautious of willy nilly posting of rumors found on the internet. Please refrain from ending up being the first to post some completely bogus information which has been done time and again here.

Tips on verifying, debunking and carefully handling rumors

March 1, 2015 by Steve Buttry
Craig Silverman

Craig Silverman

Journalists and news organizations need to do a better job of avoiding involvement in the spread of lies and unconfirmed rumors.

Accuracy and credibility are the heart of good journalism, and Craig Silverman‘s study Lies, Damned Lies and Viral Content documents widespread disregard for both in the spreading of digital reports by pro.

I won’t attempt to summarize the report here, though I will use some favorite quotes from it at the end of this post. I hope you will read the full report (it’s 164 pages) and consider what it says about you and your news organization.

What I want to focus on here are some suggestions for news organizations and individual journalists, some of which repeat Craig’s own suggestions and some of which are my suggestions, inspired by his report:
Confirming and debunking rumors

To start, I don’t think chasing rumors is necessarily the highest form of journalism, though admittedly, great journalistic investigation starts with a tip that’s indistinguishable from a rumor. But in general, I would encourage a journalistic approach that seeks to find and publish new information rather than chasing rumors.

That said, some rumors are newsworthy and can’t be ignored, and some news organizations have at least part of their operation devoted to aggregation and curation of material published first elsewhere.

Newsrooms should discuss and set standards for whether and how they debunk rumors. Early in my career, many an editor dismissed the suggestion that we should ever publicly address rumors we couldn’t confirm. I remember more than one editor snarling something to the effect that “we don’t publish rumors, we publish facts.”

Of course, we often researched rumors and published them if we confirmed them as facts. That’s still a good approach. But we generally didn’t debunk the rumors we found out were false. Perhaps that was the right approach back when rumors circulated by word of mouth. But, with rumors being published today in social media, and sometimes amplified by other media sources, I think we should attempt to shoot down the false rumors we bother to check out.

I don’t offer my suggestions as a finished set of standards for you to follow, but as a discussion-starter. The discussion might lead to some better standards that I would gladly adopt in place of mine. But here are my suggestions for an approach newsrooms and individual journalists should take to verifying or disproving rumors:

Don’t publish rumors until you have checked them out (with one exception I’ll note in detail in the crowdsourcing section below).
Don’t check out a rumor unless you would consider it newsworthy if it turns out to be true. In other words, I don’t think news organizations need to chase every rumor that makes it into social media or the competition. But if it’s newsworthy, you should check it out before publishing.
If a rumor would be newsworthy if it’s true, and you check it out, it’s probably worth debunking, especially if it’s circulated widely in social media or has been published in other professional media.
One exception to the point above: If a rumor would be harmful to someone’s reputation and hasn’t circulated widely or been published in other professional media, you should consider whether debunking the rumor would actually give it some level of credibility, and more circulation, and be more harmful to the person’s reputation. As Craig says in the report: “Repeating the rumor bomb detonates it—regardless of context.” You might ask the person how much they’ve been damaged by the rumor and whether they would prefer for you to disprove it or let it die quietly without further attention.
Especially for a local news organization, I don’t think you need to feel responsible for correcting every error that makes it into social media or even all the errors that competing media make. But an occasional story such as the Washington Post’s What was fake on the Internet this week is both fun content and helps set the record straight (and shows a commitment to accuracy).
You should be clear and specific about who erred (when you know) and about how you verified or debunked a rumor. Do it in a factual, non-accusatory way. You’ll make your share of errors, too, and did-not-did-too pissing matches don’t serve anyone well.

https://stevebuttry.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/tips-on-verifying-debunking-and-carefully-handling-rumors/


92 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Kenny
What?

The PP center is a mile away from the shooting.

93 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:44 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Chgogal

Shep has to know the stupid thing Obama said in Paris. Now he says, “America event”? Liberals just don’t care. They will write their fiction no matter what.


94 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:49 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Steely Tom
Aaron Alexis, who murdered 12 in the Washington Navy Yard shooting on 16 September was an African-American

Thank you for mentioning this. There have been so many under the Obama regime it's hard to keep up. Seems like the trend had been broken after Obama took control of the nation.

Black and White relations are at the worst under this pResident.

95 posted on 12/02/2015 11:52:03 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: rainee

OMG, they just showed live shot of the triage area.
Pray for the victims...


96 posted on 12/02/2015 11:52:33 AM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
You mean like ski masks like these worn at the Munich Olympics?

http://www.google.com/search?q=munich+olympics+terrorists&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid2YL3-b3JAhXIGh4KHQc7D28QsAQILA

There we go again, Sheppie, Obama’s Butt Boy calling it another American Tragedy....

97 posted on 12/02/2015 11:52:52 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Lazamataz

The rule of Law is slipping. From 0bama through BLM through leftist Uni Administration capitulation. The barbarians are within the walls and on the loose.


98 posted on 12/02/2015 11:52:55 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: LdSentinal

This started at an adult education center..3 shooters, no way is this just some kind of crazed nut going on a shooting spree, you have THREE OF THEM, this smells of ISIS


99 posted on 12/02/2015 11:52:59 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Heavily armed and wearing body armor.

Our first Islamic attack. There will be many, many more.


100 posted on 12/02/2015 11:53:06 AM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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