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Airbus wants to build 'shipping container' cabins that
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | November 11 2015 | Andrew Trotman

Posted on 11/27/2015 4:56:01 AM PST by Winniesboy

Proposal would mean passengers wouldn't have to wait to board, and planes would spend less time on the ground...

The proposal would see passengers "board" the cabin and take their seats, before it is lifted like a shipping container onto the back of the plane. It is then fixed into place and the plane operates as normal....

The idea is designed to speed up the boarding process by allowing ticket-holders to take their seats before their plane is ready and in position at the airport's gate...

"The period of imobilisation on the ground of the aeroplanes between two successive flights increases their operational cost. Indeed, the longer this period of immobilisation, the less actual flight time of each aeroplane," Airbus stated in its filing...

"Passengers could be pre-seated in cabin pods before the plane actually arrives, ready for integration on the aircraft, saving time and making processing much simpler."

The aircraft manufacturer also believes its proposal - dubbed the "aircraft pod concept" will allow planes to be modified quickly and easily. This could allow changes to allow "different levels of comfort" for passengers....

However, Airbus' proposal requires new docking stations and equipment to transport the "pods" between the airport and the plane.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Technical; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace
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To: Moltke

Exactly.

Don’t even get me started on regional airline puddle-jumpers.


81 posted on 11/27/2015 9:03:55 AM PST by moovova
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To: JPG

“propranoLOL”

Is that a form of laughing gas? :-)


82 posted on 11/27/2015 9:11:05 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Eddie01

and so it begins... ;)


83 posted on 11/27/2015 9:16:23 AM PST by o_1_2_3__
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To: OA5599
From my experience, Airbus jets are the best designed

Not accurate - they are newer than Boing AC. Many/most of the 767s are >30 years old and rollaboards were not as popular so the cabins look bleak and unaccommodating.

But the Boeings are better engineered and manufactured, and due to their age have better safety records.

I like the Airbusses as they are newer and have more + better creature comforts. So I suppose what matters most, design-wise, is if you get there.

84 posted on 11/27/2015 10:47:42 AM PST by corkoman
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To: wrench

Pre-seat people in the exact order the are going to board, every third row and stagger entry. That would make it quick and simple.

We’ll load rows 48, 45, 42, etc. first, boarding in that order.

5 minutes later, 47, 44, 41, etc.

5 minute later, 46, 43, 40, etc.

All done in 10 minutes, no standing in the aisle waiting for someone to load the overhead bin, so you can get past.


85 posted on 11/27/2015 12:05:10 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Mr. K
Start from the back
I don’t know how much more obvious it can get: first in is the person who enters furthest from his seat. You seat the passengers in the waiting room accordingly; first person you want to enter, you preposition closest to the entry. When boarding begins, you keep seated at least half of the passengers, waiting to ask them to queue up to board until their standing wait will be less than a minute.

For long flights, you could consider deliberately causing able-bodied passengers to walk for five minutes before boarding, just to improve their circulation and tolerate extended sitting.


86 posted on 11/27/2015 12:30:14 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Why did Europeans come up with it?

EUropeans are more likely to accept being put in flying cattle cars.

87 posted on 11/27/2015 1:09:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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To: Winniesboy
I can see this working much more readily for baggage than for passengers. Airline baggage loading is stuck in the same mode as shipping was in the days of stevedores. Loading each bag individually on to a trailer, towing the trailer to the plane, unloading and reloading on the plane, stacking in the hold - all hugely time-consuming and labour-intensive. How many times have we all been sat in the cabin twiddling our thumbs while 'the last few bags are loaded'?

For passengers surely the claimed time saving could only be realised if there were two pods - one with incoming passengers, the other with waiting outgoing passengers ready to be docked immediately the first in undocked. And it doen't take much thought to see the impracticalities of that arrangement.

88 posted on 11/27/2015 1:19:54 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Covenantor

If they just integrate the parachute scene from Fast and Furious 7, they could help passengers avoid those long lines at the car rental offices.


89 posted on 11/27/2015 1:25:58 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
“Second, it is anti-free market and anti- supply and demand for you to be cynical about the bottom line of the airline.”

Actually, IMHO, it's very basic in a free market system that both the industry and the consumers assume the other is trying to get the best deal for themselves. So being a cynical consumer is important in holding industry accountable. That's why competition is so important, and why the free market system doesn't work well when there are monopolies.

I want the airlines to do well, and agree with you entirely that we all want to fly on airlines that are solvent, and doing well. That said, if the airlines can get away having people essentially stand for their entire flight they will (something close to this has been put forth by one of the economy European airlines). As a consumer, it's my right to fight back against this, criticizing and avoiding airlines that give the impression of not caring about passenger comfort. That's my part of the free market.

90 posted on 11/27/2015 6:15:14 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

my part of the free market is flying first class/business class. It’s very comfortable. First on, first off.

Now, where you are cynical, is you are looking at the whole thing as an adversarial relationship, not a win win.....and no successful business in the planet’s history has been anything BUT a win/win - for the business and it’s customers.


91 posted on 11/27/2015 8:39:04 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Actually, I love your approach. That's exactly what I'm looking for as a consumer - a win-win. If it's a good company, and I can get good quality goods or services from them, I'm happy to pay a bit more. I've flown Ryanair before in Europe. Sometimes this kind of ‘economy’ just isn't worth it. Plus, with all the add-ons they have (costs for baggage etc.), you wind up not doing as well as you thought you might anyway. But, if I were 21 and looking to travel cheap, I'd probably go with them.
92 posted on 11/27/2015 8:48:54 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Winniesboy

Gives new meaning to the term “baggage”.


93 posted on 11/27/2015 8:49:58 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Mike Darancette
EUropeans are more likely to accept being put in flying cattle cars.<

That is because they see themselves as cattle.

94 posted on 11/27/2015 8:52:32 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Winniesboy

Going from being treated like cattle to being treated like cargo. . .


95 posted on 11/28/2015 3:27:50 AM PST by Hulka
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Business traveler knows the suffering will be over quickly if he gets on fast, dumps his carry-on fast, sits down fast.

Carry-on’s are essential to business travelers. I check no bags (that is why gawd made hotel laundries).

Let business travelers bring carry-on, one roller and one briefcase. That is all they need and they know how to pack, and get on and off a jet efficiently.

It is the brain-dead “casual” traveler that should be banned from having carry-ons. They have no idea how to pack and no clue about how to be low profile, quiet and efficient. . .and personal space? Just because they are sharing a row with someone they feel that they are now long lost friends.

Causal travelers work hard to NOT be efficient when getting on and off the jet.

Casual travelers wear their pj’s, carry a pillow, trundle on with over-stuffed roll-on, and when abeam of their seat row, THEN the brain-dead traveler looks up and sees the over-head bin is full, causing the brain-dead to keep moving aft past their assigned seat to find a open bin, then they fight “upstream” to get back to their seat. . .repeat the “up-stream” fight in reverse upon landing. THOSE are the people causing slow boarding and very slow getting off the jet.

Casual travelers should not be allowed carry-on.

The casual traveler should be ejected mid-flight if they turn into chatty-Cathy and start the endless yakking to their seat-mate (”Oh-boy-this-is-exciting-I-get-to-visit-Aunt-Edna-and-the-security-at-the-airport-makes-me-feel-so-secure-and-I-have-a-bladder-problem-and-will-need-to-get-up-every-10 minutes-and-’hey-Ralph-it’s-me-over-here-I-didn’t-know-you-were-on-this-flight-we-need-to-get-caught-up’. . .etc. . .mindless drivel.”).

That is why I have not flown coach since 1997.


96 posted on 11/28/2015 3:51:28 AM PST by Hulka
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