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To: Mat_Helm

You might be right. I don’t know. I just don’t trust the Russians anymore than anyone should.


73 posted on 11/25/2015 1:20:29 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
Well, at this point I trust Obama even less, and he and Erdogan have been best buds for a long time. Anyone hear Obama’s insulting, demeaning remarks about Russia and Putin yesterday, during the meeting with Hollande? Interesting that Holland got the support from the Russians he was hoping to see from the US. Interesting also that the Turks were facilitating the flow of arms and fighters to ISIS, and making a fortune off of smuggling ISIS oil. I think Obama’s hurt pride and Erdogan’s loss of revenue, combined with both mens’ narcissism, led them to a plan to strike back at Putin. This is personal for them, and it's going to be real personal for Putin. He's not an old Soviet-style, drunken, mindless, strongman. He's wily and ruthless, and he's won the grudging admiration even of many of us here who served during the Cold War, even though we should know better. 2016 will be interesting. I just hope we don't get caught in the crossfire.

Also, I do not believe a word coming out of the Pentagon, not a word.

77 posted on 11/25/2015 1:34:31 PM PST by binreadin
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