Amendment XXV, Section 4 - Removal of incapacitated President

U.S. Constitution ^

[Jim Robinson]

U.S. Constitution

Amendment XXV

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

[tinyowl]

"... that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office."

7 of 8 years we know that he has discharged no power nor duty of his office. He has discharged powers of ISIS's office, the Muslim Brotherhood's office, Frank Marshal Davis' office, Bill Ayer's office, Reverend Wright's office, Mao Tsu Tung's office, Pol Pot's office. He's done all their bidding, they would call him capable and dutiful.

He is certainly able to discharge power against the office.

But I've yet to see him discharge any power of his office in 7 of 8 years.

If a man cheats on his wife in the first 7 of 8 chances to either do so or not do so, wouldn't it be right for the wife to conclude that he is unable, not just struggling to or a failure at remaining faithful?

The thing is, though, this country re-elected him - I'll grant it the first folly. But at this point there are grounds to say it's the voting majority of the US, even pre- an imported Democrat Welfare State electorate, that is proving itself unable to carry out the office and duty God gave it. At this rate, the country will be removed from office before Otopia and his secular collectivist hypnotic cult followers.

[JoSixChip]

Obama is pretty close to insanity.

As compared to what? The media, the government alphabet institutions, the American universities, the GOP candidates? I don't know, it seems like you/we may be in the minority here.

[Jim Robinson]

Well, I think this guy is about one failure away from going completely raving mad. Hope someone is ready the day it happens.

[TXnMA]

Hard to get a start with this one, Jim: the VP, himself, has been mentally incapacitated for years, and he is at the head of the list of actors...

[Jim Robinson]

We are treading on new ground. What happens if we suffer a double incapacitation?

[dayglored]

>> During the latter stages of Watergate, Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig took steps to be certain that Nixon would not be able to execute nuclear launch codes without some sort of confirmation from Haig, and Nixon was far from as unstable as Barky is.

> Is that a fact? Be interesting to know, who- was watching who, and by whom. Got a reference that, mkjessup? Thanks.

I don't have a cite/URL for that but I do have a solid recollection of reading it, I think a few years after Nixon passed away (mid-1990's), possibly an article on an interview with one of the other two (Haig or Kissinger). Now I'll have to go look it up...

[Rastus]

Bammy asked, "In what way am I incapacitated?"

[Jim Robinson]

Get the hell outta here. We got the game on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et1SkVldiHI

[Semper Mark]

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,...

Whenever the Vice President..., in this case should read: Whenever hell freezes over.

Joe Biden will not be involved in an action such as this, guaranteed. And even if he did have an ounce of patriotism in his old, liquor soaked bones, it'd take a month just to sober him enough to take action. Too little. Too late.

The 'Right' and 'Duty' to Throw Off Unjust Government

A Family Security Matters article from 2010.

[The Duke]

If the power-brokers in DC believed that their own worthless hides were in grave danger then they would do this in a heartbeat. They might also do this if they felt it was necessary for a Democrat to win the White House in this election cycle.

[Pajamajan]

Bookmark but doubt it is even possible.

[Rastus]

For a second, I thought you thought I was aiming Archie at you and I was getting banned!

[tinyowl]

You might be right. As successful as it seems to us he's been at doing damage ... he seems to be straining under the notion that he'll be remembered neither as a great president, nor a total destroyer (transformer).

Narcissists are happy either way - cure for cancer, or bubonic plague - it's the largeness of the impression they leave that they care about, not the good or bad nature of it. I think he'll be thought of as just a very very nasty flu - better to be forgotten entirely than either entirely cherished or entirely reviled. To be perceived as mediocre and weak, and to have his legacy be the consequences of that weakness, especially if he's followed by a Reaganish presidency is enough to crack a narcissist - especially as his chance to transform closes, and the prospect of any kind of rebirth in America is possible.

Even liberals think he's kind of loser at this point. I'm surrounded by them, and they just ... don't ... want ... to ... talk about him. That's like being sent to hell for a narcissist. So I think you could be right there. So much harm done though across the world. Closest man to evil I've ever known. Even Bill Clinton “I Hate That Man Obama More Than Any Man I’ve Ever Met." ...

[mkjessup]

Interesting. I did not know that (about Haig and Kissenger).

I recall a televised interview with Kissinger with NBC's John Chancellor back in the early days of the Reagan administration (shortly after the assassination attempt by John Hinckley), Haig was back in the news after his 'I'm in control here at the White House' statement (which was perfectly proper), and Chancellor was asking Kissinger about crisis management and referred to the Nixon resignation, Kissinger revealed that both he and Haig were concerned over Nixon's mental health as early as late 1973, Kissinger said he refused to arrange a phone call between Nixon and then-British Prime Minister Edward Heath, his description to his deputy Brent Scowcroft that Nixon was 'loaded' from drinking too much that night.

In released telephone transcripts in 2004 [Washington Post and AP], Haig related to Kissinger that Nixon had jokingly instructed him (Haig) to "get the football" (with the nuclear codes) and that Nixon said he ought to nuke Capitol Hill since they were continuing to pursue Nixon regarding the Watergate affair. Despite the joking tone, Haig was alarmed by the comments.

One week before Nixon resigned on August 8, 1974, Haig physically secured that 'football', and Haig was later described by Watergate special prosecutor Leon Jaworski as the "man on the tightrope" trying his best to honor his obligations to the President and the Constitution but fully aware that Nixon was undergoing "the most significant mental crisis of his life" and for that reason Haig (with Kissinger's approval) instructed the Joint Chiefs of Staff to confirm with Haig and/or Kissinger any direct Presidential orders to release nuclear weapons.

I tried to locate one single URL for this data (per Red Heeler's request), however it seems to be 'out there' in piece meal fashion, and being that it is 4:00 am and I've been up most of the night (another story lol), all I can say is that 'Google was not a real good friend' for me tonight, lol

[ichabod1]

I am to the point where I would say we would be better off with Biteme. At least he’s an American citizen.

[ichabod1]

As far as the riots, I say bring them on. And suppress them vigorously. This country must not be ruled by the mob. Besides, they’ll just burn down their own neighborhoods, like they always do.

[RedHeeler]

Great job, mkjessup. Thank you.

[ichabod1]

Gridlock was what we hoped and expected from the Repuglican congress. Instead what we got was a middle finger and a blank check for that beast to do what he wants.

[ichabod1]

We need several million in the streets of DC not willing to leave. Who’s with me?

[buffyt]

I have been talking about this for a few years now. Great Post!