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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
You do understand this, right? Republicans say, "Don't run against us and we'll play fair... Unless there's a chance you can win." Get it?

I get it! Trump made a pledge to America and he want's to break it. If he was holding out he should not have made the pledge no matter how much pressure was applied. It's called integrity. He has some practice breaking vows, ask his former wives. It goes to his character and judgement. He is every bit the narcissist as Obama, he plays by his own rules, and changes them when it suits him. How can he be trusted to keep campaign promises when it is easy to say how things have changed and break them. How can you trust him to remain conservative, he was not loyal to his former party the Democrats. How can you trust a man who plays by his own rules to govern by another set of rules, the Constitution, and not become an imperial despot? What makes you believe his rhetoric and tone will suddenly become fitting the office once he is elected? The press will try to crucify any republican in office, it comes with the job and he knew it going in. Even Trump can't buy off everybody.

It appears to me that Trump is the Republican Obama. A thin skinned narcissistic who is more media than substance. He would be just as much at home in the Greek temple set with worshipers fainting about their hope and change in Washington and the healing of the planet as is Obama. Many (not all) of his followers are under the spell of the cult of personality with little to no thought of what such a person will do in office once the deal has been struck. There is almost no concern that Trump has used government corruption to expand his own empire in the past and that he still plans to use it in the future. Does he think, "Why stop the corruption when you can use it to your advantage"?

Part of vetting the candidates is to see who is presidential and who is just egotistical, Trump is showing himself to be the latter.

85 posted on 11/23/2015 1:17:32 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: DaveyB

“Trump made a pledge to America and he want’s to break it.”

No, Trump made a pledge to the Republican party and the GOPe wants to break their end of the bargain. He’s calling them out on it _before_ they make such a move; they break it, he goes 3rd party (maybe taking Cruz with him) and has a real shot at winning against the Snickers and Chock Full O’ Nuts uniparty tickets.


88 posted on 11/23/2015 1:20:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: DaveyB

Just who else has been saying what the citizens want besides Trump? GO TRUMP.


96 posted on 11/23/2015 1:30:37 PM PST by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: DaveyB
You do understand this, right? Republicans say, "Don't run against us and we'll play fair... Unless there's a chance you can win." Get it?

I get it! Trump made a pledge to America and he want's to break it. If he was holding out he should not have made the pledge no matter how much pressure was applied. It's called integrity. He has some practice breaking vows, ask his former wives. It goes to his character and judgement. He is every bit the narcissist as Obama, he plays by his own rules, and changes them when it suits him. How can he be trusted to keep campaign promises when it is easy to say how things have changed and break them. How can you trust him to remain conservative, he was not loyal to his former party the Democrats. How can you trust a man who plays by his own rules to govern by another set of rules, the Constitution, and not become an imperial despot? What makes you believe his rhetoric and tone will suddenly become fitting the office once he is elected? The press will try to crucify any republican in office, it comes with the job and he knew it going in. Even Trump can't buy off everybody.

It appears to me that Trump is the Republican Obama. A thin skinned narcissistic who is more media than substance. He would be just as much at home in the Greek temple set with worshipers fainting about their hope and change in Washington and the healing of the planet as is Obama. Many (not all) of his followers are under the spell of the cult of personality with little to no thought of what such a person will do in office once the deal has been struck. There is almost no concern that Trump has used government corruption to expand his own empire in the past and that he still plans to use it in the future. Does he think, "Why stop the corruption when you can use it to your advantage"?

Part of vetting the candidates is to see who is presidential and who is just egotistical, Trump is showing himself to be the latter.

Integrity, Would that be like being voted into office to bring more Conservatism back to Congress, and voting with the Democats?  Would that be like trashing every Conservative candidate and praising John McCain?  Would it be like trashing Donald Trump, but never uttering a whisper of discourse with John McCain?

Character, Would that be like calling Tea Party members and Conservatives terrorists?  Is that the kind of character Trump should have?  I'm a bit confused.  The Republican Party leaders remain mute when their members trash us, then get apoplectic when a guy like Trump seems ready to win the party nomination.  What character is the GOPe exhibiting?  Is there one single person at the RNC that has any integrity?  Haven't seen any evidence of it since long before Reagan.

Judgement, Once again, would this be like backing McCain with no problem, but finding massive fault with Trump?  It's not just Trump either.  The GOPe would be pooing their britches if Cruz was leading right now.  Who are you kidding?  Well, it's only yourself if you think we're buying this pantload.

campaign promises, Isn't that what Paul Ryan did when he ran, made promises, then said nobody would send illegal aliens home on his watch?  Is that the type of campaign promises you mean?  Did the GOPe differ with him?  No.  Screw the GOPe and each of their little grasshoppers on forums across the web.

loyal, Would that be as in loyal to the voters of the Republican party, the same folks the party slanders and flips off for three out of every four years?

rules, Would that be the rules the GOPe tweaked to try to keep a decent candidate from winning the nomiation next year?  Would that be the "must win 8" primaries clause?  Rules?  The GOPe doesn't play by the rules.  They've broken them for most of my life

rhetoric, You mean like the rhetoric that we buy into but get screwed almost every single time we send someone back to Washington?  You mean the folks the RNC / GOPe ask us to support every two and four years?

tone, You mean like trashing Trump for remarrying twice, when Ronald Reagan remarried once?  That tone?

Republican, What does that even mean anymore?  The absurdity of it is you actually put that word in the same post with all these others!  Integrity? Character?  Judgement?  Campaign Promises?  Loyal?  Rules?  Rhetoric?  Tone?  Deal?  Corruption?  Oh yes, the GOPe / RNC sure has made us clear on what these words mean.  The most familiar vision of the GOPe / RNC these days, is that they are a wing of the Democrat party.  We're sick of it.  Take your establishment types and go jump off a cliff.

deal has been struck, You mean like passing Medicare Part D?  Or do you mean doubling the national dept on his watch?  Perhaps you'd like to reference allowing the economy to melt down on this watch?  Perhaps you'd lik to referene the 0.83% job growth under his eight years when it has averaged 18.9% approximately for that period for 40 years?  Any of this ring a bell, after the last deal was struck.  That prick was backed with big smiles, pats on the back, and the express hope he would sell the nation out with regard to illegal and illegal criminal aliens in country.  So please, by all means warn us of the deals and what happens after them.  You seem to have forgotten it all.

government corruption, Yep, as already mentioned, illegal aliens, open borders, crashing the economy, doubling the national debt, passing big government liberal programs, allowing this nation to hardly hire any new workers at all in eight years.  Please tell us about government corruption, as if we need to be reminded of what your fellow travelers at the GOPe have done to us.

We won't even mention that Obama has not been impeaced.  Hillary Clinton has not been prosecuted.  Our military has been gutted at least in part on the GOPe's watch.  Obama now has now used five vetos in 6.75 years.

Send a note to the GOPe.  First them them F U.  Second, tell them to get their resumes polished up.  Third tell them to get some fellow travelers who can write posts to a forum that aren't asinine.


128 posted on 11/23/2015 2:07:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DaveyB
"I get it! Trump made a pledge to America and he want's to break it.'

No you don't get it.

Trump made a pledge to the republican party to back whomever the eventual nominee is.

Now, the republican party in the form of the the super pacs of Rubio, Jeb, and Kasich, the corporate media, and Wall Street intend to gang up and try to drive Trump from the race.

By the way, these candidates supposedly signed the same agreements as Trump. This is not normal campaigning. It is the GOPe and all it entails trying to choose our candidate for us once again.

If you are good with Jeb, who stated he intended to win without the backing of the base, being the nominee then go right ahead and support this plan of their's.

If you do not support Jeb as the nominee then shut your mouth until you inform yourself of what is really going on.

139 posted on 11/23/2015 2:22:31 PM PST by Amntn
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