Posted on 11/23/2015 10:16:11 AM PST by gwgn02
Legendary conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh explained to his vast audience a key difference between current Republican presidential frontrunner, real estate tycoon and reality TV star, Donald Trump and Texas Senator Ted Cruz, who has been running in third or fourth place behind Trump and Dr. Ben Carson, with Marco Rubio also in the mix.
On Mondays broadcast, the influential Limbaugh gave an analysis of the GOP race to the nomination, praising Cruz as being ideally positioned to be the nominee should Trump or Carson falter, and as the only " thoroughbred conservative."in the race.
"I think that there is a dark horse in this entire thing, and I think there is one candidate who is positioned here," Rush said. "There has been somebody trucking along here, steady-eddy, that has continued to be who he is and continues to lay down foundational markers for himself and thats Ted Cruz. And I think Ted Cruz is, is positioned, I would say ideally, "he contended.
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You know the answer to your own question. I believe you are just making cover for your candidate's expediency over principle.
Tell me that when you stop attacking folks for telling the truth about Ted Cruz.
By its very nature, conservatism IS compassionate.
Liberalism, on the other hand, is absolutely NOT compassionate. In fact, it is quite insidious and evil.
Bad theology.
From the same article:
Significantly, sanctification has no bearing on justification. That is, even if we don't live a perfect life, we are still justified.
Frankly, I don’t think you would know the truth if it hit you squarely between the eyes.
What stances? I'm just curious, not doubting you. However, if it was merely a vague statement by Trump, that helps explain why he has the poll numbers. He is appealing to a broad cross section of the electorate, especially when espoused on television where most of the "ill-informed" form their opinions of the candidates.
BTW, not a Trump supporter nor anyone else at the moment.
Please, stop with the name calling, I like Cruz, I do, but I also see no chance in a general for him. I am about as far away from being with the GOPe as you can find, but that doesn’t mean I am naive enough to think that what excites the hard core base of the Republican Party is going to win a general election.
The reality is elections are about winning the most votes, and as much as many people here may like Cruz, or Many people over at DU like Sanders, both have the same general electability issues. They can excite their bases, but they also alienate others.
Every poll except one outlier shows Hillary beats Cruz by a sizable margin, every one I have seen. Could I personally live with a Cruz presidency? Sure I could, I’m sure I’d like it, but I am not young enough or naive enough to think that the way I feel about things is the same as most other people.
I don’t see Cruz able to get cross over votes, I don’t see how he gets much of the middle... What I do see is that Cruz can indeed motivate an dejected democratic electorate who isn’t excited in the least to vote for Hillary, show up in droves to vote against Cruz... I also see a lot of swing voters doing the same. Like it or not Cruz has been a divisive character in the national political scene, don’t kid yourself about how close the shutdown came to a default, something that put every retirees benefits at risk short term, and don’t think for a minute that most are not aware of it, and that it can’t and won’t be exploited by the left to whip up a strong vote against him.
Cruz has not remotely address this very real concern, and if you think that’s just something the GOPe is floating out there to keep him down, you are fooling yourself. That concern is real and legitimate to anyone who’s been paying attention.
The Dems are on the ropes this cycle, Obama has been a disaster... OBamacare is a disaster, Obamas foreign policy has taken an ugly part of the world and turned it into a completely broken part of the world.... There is absolutely nothing to motivate anyone beyond the hard core left to show up to vote for Hillary... she’s not likable, not inspiring and following up a disasterous administration... Cruz would become a rallying cry in a general election for this group, a group that could care less about Hillary will show up just to vote against him. I am more than willing to see Cruz give me something to show this is not the case, but to date, he hasn’t done anything like that.
Not that it matters anyway, short of Trump imploding on his own, this Primary and Election is his to lose, and has been for months now.
Oh God. Yes, sanctification follows justification. Yes, sanctification is the fruit of justification. No, it is not justification (if you're not Catholic), never said that.
Frankly, I don’t think you would know the truth if it hit you squarely between the eyes.
Let's test that:
Is Team Cruz lying or telling the truth when they accuse Marco Rubio of lying about Cruz's past support for granting legal status and expanding H1-B visas? Did Cruz only support legal status and H1-B visas during the Gang of Eight fight as a way to "poison" the bill... or was he expousing these things even a couple of years later prior to this nomination season?
Keep in mind I can verify everything I've written. The question is, will you stop spreading the stupid lie that Cruz supporters hit me with in every thread, that, somehow, I am lying or am just plain wrong when I report these things?
You may not have noticed this, but you posts about Cruz’s voting history are following a familiar path:
1.) That did not happen
2.) OK, it happened. but everybody does it.
3.) It doesn’t matter anyway
I think you are about to hit step 3.
You’re right, I didn’t use the term “grow up”. Gov_bean_counter did that, and prefaced it with “in a manner of speaking.” Just a few short posts ago.
Whether you’re trying to lie yet again, or whether your brain has been addled by Trump adoration to the point that you really aren’t comprehending what people say to you, the effect is the same. It’s impossible to have a dialogue with you.
I almost feel sorry for you.
RE: 1.) That did not happen
Never said they did not happen. I did give explanations as to why he voted the way he did ( his explanations ). If people are not satisfied with it, so be it.
RE: 2.) OK, it happened. but everybody does it.
Because everybody does it ( even Trump himself is not Mr. Conservative if you look at his statements and track record, and neither was Ronald Reagan ).
This is just a reminder that nobody’s perfect and we should not expect perfection because if we do, we’d end up sitting and not voting for anyone and if enough people think that way , we’d have Hillary as President.
Hence, when it comes down to say, Rubio vs Hillary, I’d still vote for Rubio knowing of his immigration stance because the alternative is not only horrible on immigration, but on other issues as well ( not to mention corruption ).
RE: 3.) It doesn’t matter anyway
Let me be on record to say that IT MATTERS and we should hold anyone accountable for his vote or for the statements that make.
But for me, the good outweighs the bad and comparing Cruz to the rest of the field, he’s still the best out there.
My response would neither be lie nor truth, just an opinion. And my opinion would be of no value to you because apparently you have looked into the heart of Ted Cruz and already know the answer.
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BTW, not a Trump supporter nor anyone else at the moment."
Understood.
He was interviewed on "Morning Joe" and he didn't specify which stances.
Trump: I Identify With Some Things As A Democrat
I completely agree with you that some liberals like Trump. I've seen it here on the forum, with their support for Obamacare and their dismissal of abortion and social issues.
I would respond that's not the kind of support we need nor the candidate we need. Romney won the mushy middle and look what it got him. The conservative base stayed home, and we need to make sure they turn out this time.
Ted Cruz will never garner the liberal vote by confessing his own liberalism. What has happened, and is happening, though, is the same thing that occurred in 1980. Cruz is out in the grassroots explaining why conservatism is the tide that lifts all boats, and as a result, some Reagan Democrat types have put their support behind him.
Reagan Democrats...the term came into being because the Gipper did the very same thing to bring more conservative-leaning Dems into the tent. We don't need liberal support, because when we have that, it's proof we have a liberal candidate.
Insulting the best conservative voice in America huh? Sounds like you are the one on drugs.
RE: Well, that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. For me, I plan on deploying that old golden rule “Fool me once shame on you, foll me twice shame on me”.
Well, then don’t vote. All I’m saying is enough people think like you, we’ll have a repeat of 2012.
I say look at TPA and yes, he does.
I absolutely agree—neither Cruz nor Trump is perfect, for sure. Like all pols and humans.
But they seem to be the best we have—it’s Trump/Cruz for me.
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