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To: antceecee
He believes in covering those who cannot do for themselves

Universal government-paid-for healthcare. Obamacare by a different name.

We have always had this in our system

No.

56 posted on 11/21/2015 12:02:57 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

We have always had a safety net...and it was NOT universal healthcare.


66 posted on 11/21/2015 12:08:59 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: D-fendr

“We have always had this in our system” “No.”

It’s been federal law for as long as I can remember (and I’m in my sixties) that hospital emergency rooms could not turn away the indigent.

Do you remember something different? Health care, BTW, is not the same thing as health insurance...


292 posted on 11/21/2015 7:38:11 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: D-fendr
That's the second time you've posted that lie on the this thread. LINK

Trump is not for universal government health care. You were informed of this here.

Once again, for the learning impaired:

1. Trump has stated he will see that Obamacare is repealed
2. He has stated he wants to lower state lines so insurance companies can compete nationwide
3. He believes this will drive rates down, via competition, capitalism at work
4. He believes this will cause a proliferation of policies, proving better choices, via capitalism at work
5. He believe we will have to find a way to cover those who still do not have insurance.
6. The government always paid the bills of those who couldn't pay
7. Trump has said he wants to get together with insurance companies, business leaders, the health care industry, and come up with a plan that will provide coverage for these people at reduced rates.
8. This will save the government money, compared to what it was forking over.

Now that you've been informed again, I'm sure you'll quit lying about this false charge you've been making against Trump.

349 posted on 11/21/2015 9:32:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: D-fendr
When folks post to this forum, they are putting their reputation on the line.  Others can see what they are saying and judge for themselves what is up.

You have come to this thread and lied five times about Trump policy regarding universal health care.

In two of those posts, you posted a link to an article that destroys your charges.

01: 29
02: 37  exposes the lie in and of itself, see below
03: 56
04: 74
05: 81  exposes the lie in and of itself, see below

Here't the pertinant part of that article:

Transcript of interview of Trump by Scott Pelley  LINK  transcript down below

Scott Pelley: What's your plan for Obamacare?

Donald Trump: Obamacare's going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what's going on with premiums where they're up 45, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private." But--

Scott Pelley: Universal health care?  (note that Trump does not advocate for Universal Health Care at all in response)

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?

Donald Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything. (this is the private sector insured)

This is the furtherst thing from single payer Obamacare.

Trump does not support or advocate for single payer universal health care.

Scott Pelley asks Trump if he supports it, and Trump responds with private sector solutions.

A new way of covering the uninsured will be determined, but the government has been paying the bills of the uninsured.  He wants to find a better low cost way to do so.

Other than that it's private sector and expanded competition.

This is not universal health care and you know it.

362 posted on 11/21/2015 10:19:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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