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To: DoughtyOne

Are you posting that with a straight face?

All you’re doing is rehashing the Romney/moderate/liberal argument...we need the sacred mushy middle and the Democrats (a fallacy), so let’s run one.

Romney won the independent vote. How’d that work out?

If we want to win, we need to turn out the base. It’s simple truth. When we run moderates or liberals, we lose. Another simple fact. Demonstrable by history, but some of us just never absorb it. We keep running to the “electable” (read: sure loser in the general) guy.

I will never support a liberal. I will only support conservative candidates...and by that I mean those with a proven conservative record and history. Not those with a singularly liberal history who suddenly claim conservatism on the campaign trail, while constantly promoting liberalism (support for ethanol subsidies is the latest, and the Iowa Democrats just love it).

Meanwhile, you openly dismiss conservatism as being a useless, losing strategy. On a conservative forum.

Recap that.


153 posted on 11/20/2015 9:21:56 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Are you posting that with a straight face?

Except for when I'm reading your responses, yes.


All you’re doing is rehashing the Romney/moderate/liberal argument...we need the sacred mushy middle and the Democrats (a fallacy), so let’s run one.

It would be hard not to realize what your present grasp of reality is, but I'll refrain from being too direct with regard to it.


"Let's run one?"  Am I to believe you think Trump is a Democrat?  If that's what you think, you've truly gone round the bend.  

Donald Trump is not Romney.  He's not even close to Romney.  When you address the two it casts a shadow over you, not Trump.

Romney wanted to implement RomneyCare nationwide to replace Obamacare.  Trump wants to return it to the private sector.

Trump:

Deport illegal aliens  (Romney? No)
Build a wall  (Romney?  No)
Address Planned Parenthood funding
Replace Obamacare with a private sector solution  (Romney?  No)
Stop big government deficit spending  (Romney?  Doub it)
Pay down the national debt  (Romney?  Not addressed)
Lower taxes across the board  (Romney?  Doubt it)
Put people back to work  (Romney?  Didn't hawk it.  Didn't have a plan)
Build up our military  (Romney?  No)
Get Veterans the care they deserve  (Romney?  No)
Do away with the Department of Education  (Romney?  No)
Severely reign in the EPA and other government agencies  (Romney?  No)
Review entitlements  (Romney?  No)
Take action to make sure Islamic adherents don't harm our nation  (Romney?  No)

This was your take on Romney?  Why the similarities are amazing...  LOL

Straight face?


Romney won the independent vote. How’d that work out?

I mention that Democrats,  Independents, Moderate Republicans, and some Conservative who think Cruz can't win the nominaton who will vote for Trump, and this was your big comeback?  Straight face?

If we want to win, we need to turn out the base. It’s simple truth. When we run moderates or liberals, we lose. Another simple fact. Demonstrable by history, but some of us just never absorb it. We keep running to the “electable” (read: sure loser in the general) guy.

This reaches the level of avoidance on two different qualifiers.  One, Trump is pushing Reagan's platform.  He's not a Leftist.  Two, who decides who we run?  
Democrats,  Independents, & Moderate Republicans.

Somewhere out there in your fantasy land, you think "our base" outnumbers those entities.  True Conservatives are but a subset of the Republican party.  They can't even dictate what the party does, let alone best Democrats and Independents who combine with them to select our nominees.  What is so hard for you to understand there?  It is reality.

Trump's style has attracted broad support.  He's pulling across party, gender, and racial lines.  Republicans generally pull around 5 to 10% of the Hispanic and Black vote.  Trump is drawing 25%?

I will never support a liberal.

Impressive.  Straight face?  Nobody here has asked you to vote for a Liberal unless you think Ronald Reagan was a Liberal.

I will only support conservative candidates...and by that I mean those with a proven conservative record and history.

You read some comments of Trumps from years ago, and make assumptions about his total belief set.  You don't listen to him today, because that can't be what he believes.

Not all that impressive actually.


Not those with a singularly liberal history who suddenly claim conservatism on the campaign trail, while constantly promoting liberalism (support for ethanol subsidies is the latest, and the Iowa Democrats just love it).

Approves of Ethanol subsidies.  Wow, now there's a man I could never support.  Straight face too I'll bet.

Meanwhile, you openly dismiss conservatism as being a useless, losing strategy. On a conservative forum.

Perhaps you could link me to one or more posts I've made where I dismissed Conservatism.

You are dismissing a man hawking Reagan's platform, telling me I've dismissed Conservatism.

Recap that.


You're welcome...

176 posted on 11/20/2015 10:43:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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