Posted on 11/13/2015 9:45:56 AM PST by conservativejoy
There seems to be an issue with the GOP in DC, and let me tell you, it isn't pretty. Establishment GOP seemingly would rather have the likes of Shrillary than a non vetted (by them, of course) politician that isn't hand picked by them. What the heck is this all about?
Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.
Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.
The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.
In normal times, the way forward would be obvious. The wannabes would launch concerted campaigns, including television attack ads, against the Âfront-runners. But even if the other candidates had a sense of what might work this year, it is unclear whether it would ultimately accrue to their benefit. Trump's counterpunches have been withering, while Carson's appeal to the base is spiritual, not merely political. If someone was able to do significant damage to them, there's no telling to whom their supporters would turn, if anyone.
"The rest of the field is still wishing upon a star that Trump and Carson are going to Âself destruct," said Eric Fehrnstrom, a former adviser to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. But, he said, "they have to be made to self destruct. Nothing has happened at this point to dislodge Trump or Carson."
Fehrnstrom pointed out that the fourth debate passed this week without any candidate landing a blow against Trump or Carson. "We're about to step into the holiday time accelerator," he said. "You have Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, then Iowa and a week later, New Hampshire, and it's going to be over in the blink of an eye."
According to other Republicans, some in the party establishment are so desperate to change the dynamic that they are talking anew about drafting Romney — despite his insistence that he will not run again. Friends have mapped out a strategy for a late entry to pick up delegates and vie for the nomination in a convention fight, according to the Republicans who were briefed on the talks, though Romney has shown no indication of reviving his interest.
For months, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fizzle with time. Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate. Or when summer turned to fall, kids went back to school and parents had time to assess the candidates. Or after the second, third or fourth debates, certainly.
None of that happened, of course, leaving establishment figures disoriented. Consider Thomas H. Kean Sr., a former New Jersey governor who for most of his 80 years has been a pillar of his party. His phone is ringing daily, bringing a stream of exasperation and confusion from fellow GOP power brokers.
The apprehension among some party elites goes beyond electability, according to one Republican strategist who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly about the worries.
"We're potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn't fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job," this strategist said. "It's not just that it could be somebody Hillary could destroy electorally, but what if Hillary hits a banana peel and this person becomes president?â€
Look, I don't know how the American public can make it more clear- WE DO NOT WANT A CAREER POLITICIAN
Get Prince Rebus out now!
Put in Allen West.
GOP feeling insignificant? Throwing a tantrum?
We need to show up in Ohio in 2016 for the GOP convention. Take the friggin party back.
Hmmm so for 27 years we let these people tell us who was “qualified” to be President.
They got their “Dream” candidates in 2008 and 2012.
How did that work out for us?
Past time these people be told by the voters to sit down and shut up.
Hell of a lot of money being made on both sides regardless of who is in charge of the asylum.
As long as a go along get along everyone’s making lots of dough type gets elected and the dole keeps rolling. That’s what the establishment want.
Then there is the Tea party.
We want to do away with about 65 percent of this worthless federal gub mint.
Worthless sucker bottom fish.
Allen West replacing the GOPe Prince........perfect.
You already do. Her name is 0bama.
Bigger babies: college students or GOP establishment?
I am tired of the word “qualified” being bantered around by pundits and the like. The constitution is very clear who can be president and being a governor, senator, etc... was not in the description. Their idea of “qualified” means someone who they can control and use to push their One World Agenda.
If the RINO’s are so hell bent on getting their candidate into office, let them come out and announce who that candidate is.
I believe a third party that is conservative can win in 2016. Rather than splitting the republican party which would put the rat in office, I submit that the rat and the rino will split the vote putting the conservative in office, since the rat and rino share ideological beliefs.
Their desired convention outcome would ensure that these "fears" become reality. They are not stupid i.e. they know that. Mrs. bill is their preferred president. It is much easier to do "business" with a mobster than it is with an honest man and they do not desire for any Republican to be president because it would disturb their profitable arrangements just because the elites would resent a member of a nominally different organization taking the Democrats' rightful office from them even though that non official Democrat is ideologically a null and will promote everything that Democrats want other than the office itself.
There's no difference between a RINO and a Democrat! That's what those morons can't get through their stupid heads!
That's a tough one...have to think about this.
I’d rather have Hillary than the GOPe’s candidate.
And I despise PIAPS.
NO! Do not even try that crap this year.
Oust them at all levels - federal, state, county, township, city, village, household.
No benefits, no perks. Make them all non-paid, part-time jobs. They're destroying the republic.
If it has its defects, it is said, they can be best amended when they are experienced. But remember, when the people once part with power, they can seldom or never resume it again but by force. Many instances can be produced in which the people have voluntarily increased the powers of their rulers; but few, if any, in which rulers have willingly abridged their authority. This is a sufficient reason to induce you to be careful, in the first instance, how you deposit the powers of government.
How far the clause in the 8th section of the 1st article may operate to do away all idea of confederated states, and to effect an entire consolidation of the whole into one general government, it is impossible to say. The powers given by this article are very general and comprehensive, and it may receive a construction to justify the passing almost any law. A power to make all laws, which shall be necessary and proper, for carrying into execution, all powers vested by the constitution in the government of the United States, or any department or officer thereof, is a power very comprehensive and definite [indefinite?], and may, for ought I know, be exercised in a such manner as entirely to abolish the state legislatures. Suppose the legislature of a state should pass a law to raise money to support their government and pay the state debt, may the Congress repeal this law, because it may prevent the collection of a tax which they may think proper and necessary to lay, to provide for the general welfare of the United States? For all laws made, in pursuance of this constitution, are the supreme lay of the land, and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of the different states to the contrary notwithstanding. — By such a law, the government of a particular state might be overturned at one stroke, and thereby be deprived of every means of its support.
It is not meant, by stating this case, to insinuate that the constitution would warrant a law of this kind; or unnecessarily to alarm the fears of the people, by suggesting, that the federal legislature would be more likely to pass the limits assigned them by the constitution, than that of an individual state, further than they are less responsible to the people. But what is meant is, that the legislature of the United States are vested with the great and uncontroulable powers, of laying and collecting taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; of regulating trade, raising and supporting armies, organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, instituting courts, and other general powers. And are by this clause invested with the power of making all laws, proper and necessary, for carrying all these into execution; and they may so exercise this power as entirely to annihilate all the state governments, and reduce this country to one single government. And if they may do it, it is pretty certain they will; for it will be found that the power retained by individual states, small as it is, will be a clog upon the wheels of the government of the United States; the latter therefore will be naturally inclined to remove it out of the way. Besides, it is a truth confirmed by the unerring experience of ages, that every man, and every body of men, invested with power, are ever disposed to increase it, and to acquire a superiority over every thing that stands in their way. This disposition, which is implanted in human nature, will operate in the federal legislature to lessen and ultimately to subvert the state authority, and having such advantages, will most certainly succeed, if the federal government succeeds at all. It must be very evident then, that what this constitution wants of being a complete consolidation of the several parts of the union into one complete government, possessed of perfect legislative, judicial, and executive powers, to all intents and purposes, it will necessarily acquire in its exercise and operation.
Let us now proceed to enquire, as I at first proposed, whether it be best the thirteen United States should be reduced to one great republic, or not? It is here taken for granted, that all agree in this, that whatever government we adopt, it ought to be a free one; that it should be so framed as to secure the liberty of the citizens of America, and such an one as to admit of a full, fair, and equal representation of the people. The question then will be, whether a government thus constituted, and founded on such principles, is practicable, and can be exercised over the whole United States, reduced into one state?
Anti-federalist: Brutus #1
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Yep. This is the big lie in US Politics. That the DC Dems and the Republicans are opposed to each other. They only fight over which set of campaign donor pigs get which seats at the taxpayer money trough.
Anyone who might threaten this corrupt arrangement of the DC Political/Media/Business machine is considered “unqualified” to be elected
Just like they would have liked Obama instead of a conservative...and got it. We played that stupid game twice, and it might have cost us our country. The GOPe is as dangerous as any socialist, communist or democrat. Time we call them out...THEY are responsible for Obama’s actions...and they have supported him throughout...time to name the real enemy...the GOPe!!!!!
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