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Breaking Through The MSM “Gaslighting”- CBS Poll of Democrats Show They Fear Trump The Most
Conservative Treehouse ^ | November 12, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 11/12/2015 10:33:39 PM PST by Red Steel

The professional punditry amid the Main Stream Media -on both sides of the political continuum- continue selling a narrative that Donald Trump is the easiest candidate for Hillary Clinton to beat. This pitch is based on their gaslighting claims and "opinion" and not reality.

Poll after poll shows exactly the opposite. In addition to recent polling showing Donald Trump beating Hillary in NC, FL, SC, VA, MN, OH, TX and NV - Democrats, by a wide margin, fear Donald Trump more than any other Republican candidate.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; cbs; elections; fearfuldems; polls; trump
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’d rather fight a court on the law prohibiting non-citizens from receiving public funds than fight 11 million cases of forced deportation.

Forced deportation is just not a workable or effective solution.


61 posted on 11/13/2015 12:20:50 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Trump has known Hillary for a long time.
I bet he knows a LOT of “dirt” about her and if you imagine that he wouldn’t use it.....you’d be wrong; your usual state of being.


62 posted on 11/13/2015 12:43:59 AM PST by nopardons
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To: D-fendr

Forced deportation is just not a workable or effective solution.

I think that we would all agree that Obama in general does not have a great deal of desire to deport anyone. He like other far left Democrats know that illegal alien’s overwhelmingly support Democrats... so they don’t want illegals to go anywhere. Yet during Obama’s time in office despite all of his efforts on behalf of those who have entered the country illegally over 2 MILLION people have been deported.

So if Obama can deport 2 million people without even wanting to... why is it that you do not believe that 11 million illegal aliens can be deported by the Trump administration? Are you a gullible fool who has drunk the Kool-Aid or are you a troll with an agenda? Those are the two most likely explanations.

It seems like you do not live in an area like where my family does. Where when you go to the store you are typically outnumbered 2 to 1 by people from other cultures who have no desire to assimilate into the American culture. You probably live in an area where English speaking white people are still a majority and you don’t have a clue about what is going on in many other parts of the country.

I do agree that the primary way that you get rid of illegal interlopers is not deportation; it to make their continued residence here untenable. This can be done just by enforcing laws we already have. So what Are the Penalties for Hiring an Illegal Immigrant?

“Hiring illegal immigrants can lead to many severe penalties, such as: Criminal and civil fines Loss of business licenses Most fines are broken down to the following:

First offenders can be fined $250-$2,000 per illegal employee.

For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.

Three or more offenses can cost an employer $3000-$10,000 per illegal employee.

A pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants can mean extra fines and up to six months in jail for an employer. This does not include harboring illegal immigrants, or employing ten or more illegal immigrants in one year. Harboring an illegal immigrant can lead to ten years of prison time.

Additionally, employers should be aware of the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. Employers can be sued under the act for hiring illegal immigrants, and can face large settlement deals. The lawfully documented workers of the Zirkle Fruit Company recently settled a class action lawsuit brought under RICO. The suit alleged that their employer knowingly hired undocumented workers, driving down their wages.”

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/penalties-for-employers-hiring-illegal-immigrants.html#sthash.Ix2SGoCT.dpuf

If these laws were being more than selectively enforced we wouldn’t have an illegal alien problem. Instead we are giving them free housing, free food, free school, and free everything else largely based on the presence of anchor babies. And employers do not worry at all about hiring illegals because they have been allowed to make a mockery of the laws by accepting any false documentation they want and then claiming ignorance.

If the laws were enforced and especially if the liberal bed wetter interpretation of a 100 year old ruling that had nothing to do with anchor babies was finally challenged... we wouldn’t have to deport 11-30 million illegals. Without jobs, free housing and welfare they would leave on their own. Even though they should pay for their own transportation out of the country... I personally am not opposed to the federal government providing them with a bus ride to a warm location somewhere a couple hundred miles south of the border. But that is just me because I like to help people.


63 posted on 11/13/2015 12:51:22 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: D-fendr

Trump wants everyone to think Trump is great. It’s all about the Donald. I’m amazed anyone can’t see that after ten minutes of watching him

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Will you vote for Trump in the general election if he’s the republican nominee?


64 posted on 11/13/2015 12:54:09 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: fireman15
Sorry I forgot to italicize the quote from the disruptive troll that has been causing so much unneeded aggravation.

Forced deportation is just not a workable or effective solution.

Those are the words of the other guy.

65 posted on 11/13/2015 12:55:43 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Graybeard58
Will you vote for Trump in the general election if he’s the republican nominee?

Certainly. Will you vote for the GOP candidate if he's not?

66 posted on 11/13/2015 1:00:57 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nopardons
Trump has known Hillary for a long time.

Yeah I know. He spoke highly of her, supported her, said she'd be a good choice to negotiate with Iran. And he said Obama had a good grasp of the economy, picked a good team, showed leadership.

And you guys still chow down whatever this guy feeds you.. Amazing.

67 posted on 11/13/2015 1:03:47 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fireman15
over 2 MILLION people have been deported.

On entry. This is not what Trump is proposing.

68 posted on 11/13/2015 1:05:26 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fireman15
I do agree that the primary way that you get rid of illegal interlopers is not deportation; it to make their continued residence here untenable.

Then we agree. Perhaps we disagree that this, self-deporting and stopping incentive for new illegals, is the only solution that works long term.

69 posted on 11/13/2015 1:07:00 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Certainly. Will you vote for the GOP candidate if he’s not?

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I will vote for the GOP candidate. The only “republican” candidate I wouldn’t vote for, under any circumstances is Mitt Romney. Got to draw the line somewhere.

I’d even vote for JEB over Hillary, any day.


70 posted on 11/13/2015 1:12:44 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Graybeard58

Good to hear we agree on something.

:)


71 posted on 11/13/2015 1:13:50 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

I suppose you’re in support of the “mature” candidates that maturely advance subversion of law.


72 posted on 11/13/2015 1:18:12 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: D-fendr
That's called "apple polishing" and he did it to get them to give him what HE wanted re business deals.

You just don't understand this kind of "horse trading".

73 posted on 11/13/2015 1:19:38 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Gene Eric

No, I support immature candidates that immaturely advance subversion of the law.

Care to have a real discussion?


74 posted on 11/13/2015 1:20:27 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nopardons

Yeah I understand corruption and crony capitalism. Just never thought of it as a badge of honor for a conservative candidate.


75 posted on 11/13/2015 1:21:41 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nopardons

You would think we could at least require integrity in a president.


76 posted on 11/13/2015 1:23:19 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

It’s NOT a “badge of honor”; however, since he does understand and wants to do away with it ( call that hypocritical if you want to, but Trump is the only one who owes nobody anything in this race ), he is more honest than the others.


77 posted on 11/13/2015 1:25:04 AM PST by nopardons
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To: D-fendr

Since when? LOL


78 posted on 11/13/2015 1:25:51 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Was he honest when he supported one of the most corrupt members of the house? Honest when he supported Harry Reid, Pelosi, Hillary?

Sorry, FRiend, if he’s honest he’s not conservative. Either way...


79 posted on 11/13/2015 1:26:48 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nopardons

Yeah, LOL. But you gotta admit when it comes to integrity in politicians, Trumps scraping the bottom of the barrel.


80 posted on 11/13/2015 1:28:10 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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