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OOPS: Donald Trump -- not exactly an expert on TPP
The Washington Examiner ^ | November 11, 2015 | staff

Posted on 11/11/2015 12:26:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

During last night's Republican presidential debate, the Wall Street Journal's Gerard Baker made a critical mistake: He tried to pin Donald Trump down on policy specifics. In this case, it was about trade policy, a subject about which Trump evidently knows very little.

Baker asked the billionaire "which particular parts" of the pending Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade deal he objected to. If he were familiar with the deal, Trump could have raised any of several issues. Instead, he continued with the same word salad about China that he has been issuing forth since long before the TPP had been negotiated and published.

"If you look at how China and India and almost everyone takes advantage of the Untied States - China in particular, because they are so good, it's the number one abuser of this country. If you look at the way they take advantage, it's through currency manipulation. It's not even discussed in the almost 6,000 page agreemen...If [TPP] is approved, it will just be more bad trade deals, more loss of jobs for our country. We are losing jobs like no one's ever lost jobs before. I want to bring jobs back into this country."

It took a clear-headed Rand Paul to bring some reality back into the conversation.

"Hey, Gerard?" Paul interjected. "We might want to point out that China's not part of this deal." The crowed roared with laughter as Trump shrunk before their eyes. (Never mind the fact that Trump had just accused India of currency manipulation - perhaps making him the first person to do so at least in the last decade.)...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dailytds; gopprimary; incorrectarticle; tds; tpp; trade; trump
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So much for Trump's boast about being such a great businessman - a wheeler and dealer...
1 posted on 11/11/2015 12:26:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hey, the fact that Trump is against the deal is good enough from me!

It is an anti-U.S. Sovereignty bill, just like the other phony trade deals.

2 posted on 11/11/2015 12:31:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wrong. Trump was specifically talking about China on that particular point.


3 posted on 11/11/2015 12:31:42 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

And Walker is *still* out of the race.

:)


4 posted on 11/11/2015 12:35:41 AM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What was clear from this exchange was that Trump knows nothing about this trade agreement, aside from the fact that he's supposed to be courting a voter base that strongly opposes it.

TPP discussed as well as China pegging their currency to the US dollar.

Paul confused, conflated it into one and the same.

5 posted on 11/11/2015 12:36:25 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
May be you and Rand should study the topic before you post. Just saying.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3345083/posts?page=32#32
The question of "rules of origin" for auto parts had been a stumbling block in discussions on the Trans-Pacific Partnership until the end of September, when Mexican and Canadian negotiators appeared to relent and allow the majority of a vehicle's parts to be sourced from outside the 12 countries that are parties to the regional trade deal. Those negotiators ultimately aimed for 45 percent of auto parts to be bought locally, while Japanese negotiators had sought a 32.5 percent floor for local parts, Reuters reported. Because the final text of the deal has not been published, the ultimate percentage remains unclear. But either option would allow for the majority of a vehicle's components to be sourced from outside TPP countries.

Trans-Pacific Partnership Winners: Toyota, Japanese Automakers Could Still Use Mostly Chinese Car Parts While Enjoying Reduced Tariffs Under TPP

http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-partnership-winners-toyota-japanese-automakers-could-still-use-mostly-2127095

6 posted on 11/11/2015 12:37:43 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Red Steel

First comment:

The media has been discussing for weeks that China can sign onto the TPP at their leizure. If they do, this most definitely a bad trade deal. If they don’t, then they’re not restrained by copyright or patent laws.

Trump is right on this issue. TPP will be used as a ‘backdoor’ for China to harm us in future trade.

I highly recommend that your author dig a little deeper into this issue. Look for articles that were published pre-debate. You’ll see that he’s not making it up. 


7 posted on 11/11/2015 12:39:29 AM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No one knows the specifics of the TPP.

No one in Congress.

Not lazy @ss Obama.

Not even John Kerry.

The author states that the person who claims that TPP was their greatest achievement, Hillary Clinton, has now come against it for “political” reasons.

The author also does not state that China COULD become a part of the agreement at any time, they are in no way locked out of it.

If the idiots in DC could not be bothered to read a 2,000 page Obamacare bill, they sure as heck did not read this 6,000 page bill.

Although Paul is technically correct, it is a myopic point that has no bearing on the big picture.


8 posted on 11/11/2015 12:40:16 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yeah, but he does not know why he’s against it..other then it is too long..

Trump never gets specific about much of anything, but you can bet his staff is working furiously on a position paper to give to Trump for the stump on the TPP...

But he’s gonna make America great....even better....right..?


9 posted on 11/11/2015 12:41:59 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Marie

It seems you know more than Trump does, and that is the point...is it not?


10 posted on 11/11/2015 12:43:46 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

You must be the most ignorant, ill informed, person on this forum to not know that Trump has several position papers out on his vision to “Make America Great Again.” If I give you a quarter, will you buy yourself a clue?


11 posted on 11/11/2015 12:46:34 AM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For Trump, and for many of his supporters, knowledge and facts are not all that important. Trump will hire people who know the things he doesn’t know. It should be helpful for the economy and lower our unemployment rate.


12 posted on 11/11/2015 12:55:08 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Catsrus

I was specifically referring to the TPP.

Other than what he said during the debate which was pretty much just that it was a bad deal, he had few if any specifics. I wish they had stayed on the topic.

Yes, I am quite ignorant. I saw only one light weight candidate on that stage tonight and it was Donald trump.

I also in my ignorance, can speculate that this observation is shared by others, equally ignorant, I assume.


13 posted on 11/11/2015 12:55:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There were many critical things Trump could have said about the 1,000 page agreement. What he chose to focused on, the absence of any provisions to deal with currency manipulation, was completely valid. How this damages Trump’s reputation as a great businessman and wheeler dealer, is only ‘evident’ to the irrational and confused mind of Cincinatus’ Wife.


14 posted on 11/11/2015 1:02:04 AM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Cold Heat

Oh, let’s not assume anything - it is fact and you admitted it. I’m so glad you prefer Kasich, Bush and Rubio - all amnesty lovers - I guess I’ll assume that as well. Or perhaps I can assume you also like Carly who wants to get us into WWIII. Naw, we wan’t assume - if Trump - in your opinion, was the only lightweight, then I’ll assume you are a GOPE lover. Cruz had a misstep as did Carson and Paul - not one came out perfect - so, let’s not assume that anyone did.


15 posted on 11/11/2015 1:04:49 AM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Catsrus

16 posted on 11/11/2015 1:05:24 AM PST by BlueDragon (...and as the nail sunk in the cloud, the rain was warm and soaked... the crowd)
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To: BlueDragon

So, you only need 7 cents? That can be arranged.


18 posted on 11/11/2015 1:08:29 AM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
So much for Trump's boast about being such a great businessman - a wheeler and dealer..

Tell us about the last 10 billion dollars YOU earned eh?

Here, for you and the rest of your pack o' Trump-haters:

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Either lead, follow, or get the Hell out o' the way!
19 posted on 11/11/2015 1:09:55 AM PST by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: elhombrelibre
....Trump will hire people who know the things he doesn't know. .....

I don't know how to combat that sort of thinking.

You've put your trust in someone who has championed and supported the Democratic Party leadership (still on the Hill) that has served Obama and Clinton well and faithfully for the last 2 terms (and Trump's support for liberal policies are not things of the past).

Since he tells you that he can do what you want, you want to believe - he's a good salesman and you are not a discerning voter.

20 posted on 11/11/2015 1:09:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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