[sitetest]

I have looked at trump’s alleged solutions, and instead of real market reforms, he is basically trying big government “solutions” that are implemented drop the top, down.

This is familiar to him. He’s a crony capitalist, and he’s made a bunch of money as a crony capitlost. He took a fortune of some tens, or perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars from his father and turned it into as much as $4 billion. Crony capitalism has treated him very well.

On the other hand, you’re arguing that if his statist “solutions” don’t work, he’ll keep trying until he finds something that does work.

That’s an assertion that you are inferring from his alleged business success.

But the evidence is that when something doest work for him, he disengages. He walks away.

Besides his four bankruptcies, he’s had many smaller businesses from which he’s walked away. Starting with his four bankruptcies, he’s walked away from Atlantic city. He says he got out before Atlantic City became unprofitable. But it’s still profitable. There are other casino and hotels operators there still making money. There is increased competition. It is harder to make money. Operating margins are slimmer. But some operators still make money. But trump, instead of figuring out how to fix the businesses in Atlantic City, ultimately walked away from them. As well as smaller ventures such as trump steaks, trump mortgages, trump vodka, and trump: the game.

That’s all right. As a busunessman, you might try a number of ventures, and onl y stick with the ones that work out. trump has done that well. He has taken a formidable fortune from his father and kept pace with that fortune probably a little faster t h an inflation. Many come into large fortunes and squander them. trump has not. He will pass a larger fortune to his children than he received from his parents.

But in government, walking away may not be a viable option. At least if you’re not going to leave the people hanging.

In private business, if you walk away, you may directly affect some laid-off workers you may stiff some contractors, some bond holers, but the damage is limited.

In government, if you walk away, you may affect hundreds of thousands, or millions. Or even all of us.

[Jane Long]

You sound like an Occupooper.

We get that you have nothing but disdain for Trump, but coming on here and projecting your “crony capitalist” BS completely degrades and diminishes ANY argument you might have had.

Trump is the ONLY candidate leading the way to help...with a SOLID plan...our dear vets. For you to mock THIS plan, of all things, is beyond despicable.

Your *facts* are completely unfounded and are nothing but the typical DU drivel posted by leftists, on conservative forums.

[smoothsailing]

Your alleged opinion or du talking points or whatever anti-Trump bilge you routinely spout is meaningless on this thread. You’re not what this thread is about.

This thread is about honoring a promise to the nation’s veterans and providing them the timely quality care they’ve earned.

I doubt, given your biased bs, that anybody cares what you think.

[free_life]

I should have known better than try logic with you considering your bull on thread after thread.

You throw around terms you read somewhere and don’t have a clue what they actually refer to. You can’t even connect the dots in your criticism of Trump’s plan to help Vets and treat them with the respect they deserve.

The Vets deserve better than your useless words to attack Trump because he is killing whoever it is you favor for the nomination. Grow up...pee off!

From now on I will think of you as someone who cares not for our Vets as you use their mistreatment to try to make BS political points on FR.

Thank you Donald trump for making our Vets and their mistreatment a top issue in this nomination process and the coming election and for real solutions to the problem.

[DoughtyOne]

I have looked at trump’s alleged solutions, and instead of real market reforms, he is basically trying big government “solutions” that are implemented drop the top, down.  

Well you mustn't have looked very hard, because that is incorrect.  He plans on cutting big government spending.  He plans on creating a very favorable job creation environment.  He plans on paying down the debt.  He plans on revoking Obamacare and replacing it with a private sector plan.  Big government solutions?  Really?

Let's take a look at his replacement plan for Obamacare.  Obamacare is high priced, hopes to wind up with single payer, and eliminates people's old health care plans and physicians.

Trump plans on lowering state lines so Insurance companies can compete nationwide.  This will create competition that will lower rates and cause a proliferation of available policies.

Big government solution?  LOL  Nice try.  That's just one example of Trump getting big government out of the way.  He also plans on shuttering the Department of Education, and is making noiese like he plans on the same for the EPA.

He is cutting taxes across the baord.  Big government fix?  Really?

This is familiar to him. He’s a crony capitalist, and he’s made a bunch of money as a crony capitlost.

Trump has taken advantag of every tax break open to him.  I'll bet you do too.  Tell us which tax break you pass on, just to be a good citizen.  He has also taken advantage of other protections such as Chapter 11, or perhaps another code category for bankruptcy.  This is not crony capitalism.  It's something available for every U. S. citizen under the proper circumstances.  Yes you too..., so would using it make you a crony citizen, or just an average citizen who got into trouble and needed an orderly way out?

He took a fortune of some tens, or perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars from his father and turned it into as much as $4 billion. Crony capitalism has treated him very well.

This is not an example of Crony Capitalism.  It merely makes you look silly and fraudulent when you use that term improperly.  This is the second time in this post alone.  Around 1989-90, Trump's empire came under severe negative economic pressure.  One major magazine estimated his net worth at -$150 million dollars.  So when you state that his father handed off a fortune and Trump parlayed that into $4 billion, it's not the truth.  He parlayed -$150 million inito $4 billion.  You aren't very well informed are you.     

On the other hand, you’re arguing that if his statist “solutions” don’t work, he’ll keep trying until he finds something that does work.

Yawn.  This is the best you can do?  Seriously?  They are not statist solutions.  They are anti-statist solutions.

That’s an assertion that you are inferring from his alleged business success.

Alleged?  Put down the bong and go take a nap.  Turning -$150 million into between a $4 and $10 billion dollar net worth is an "alleged success"?  You really are a clueless wonder aren't you..

But the evidence is that when something doest work for him, he disengages. He walks away.

No, walking away would be allowing his business to fold, thus hurting his employees, the local community, and various taxing agencies.  Above you referred to him as a Crony Capitalist because he didn't just walk away.  He filed for bankruptcy and maintained these businesses.  You trash him if he does, and then trash him as if he hadn't.  Did that even dawn on you?  Doubtful...

Besides his four bankruptcies, he’s had many smaller businesses from which he’s walked away. Starting with his four bankruptcies, he’s walked away from Atlantic city. He says he got out before Atlantic City became unprofitable. But it’s still profitable. There are other casino and hotels operators there still making money. There is increased competition. It is harder to make money. Operating margins are slimmer. But some operators still make money. But trump, instead of figuring out how to fix the businesses in Atlantic City, ultimately walked away from them. As well as smaller ventures such as trump steaks, trump mortgages, trump vodka, and trump: the game.

Once again, filing for bankruptcy is not walking away, so that red sentence above makes it clear you have no grasp of these matters.  And yet here you are spouting off anyway.

As for the closings of any of his businesses, I'm thinking Trump's economic team probably has a few more notches on it's belt than you do.  The businesses he did shutter were ventures that didn't pan out in the long run.  So what.  His net worth went up.  His number of employees went up.  His holdings went up.  He is asked to manage properties all over the world.  Are the people who hire Trump industruies to manage their properties more accurate with regard to who Trump is.  Quite likely...

That’s all right. As a busunessman, you might try a number of ventures, and onl y stick with the ones that work out. trump has done that well. He has taken a formidable fortune from his father and kept pace with that fortune probably a little faster t h an inflation. Many come into large fortunes and squander them. trump has not. He will pass a larger fortune to his children than he received from his parents.

First of all, Trump didn't just get handed money and turn it into something massive.  During an economic down-turn he more than lost it all.  Only through a tough nature and a dogged determination did he turn it around.  You minimize his accomplishment to belittle him.  Now you compliment him as if you didn't say what you did here and above.  LOL  You are one confused individual.

But in government, walking away may not be a viable option. At least if you’re not going to leave the people hanging.

I was waiting breathlessly for something of value from your post.  Still waiting...

In private business, if you walk away, you may directly affect some laid-off workers you may stiff some contractors, some bond holers, but the damage is limited.

There are factors to be weighed.  You do the best you can and make a determination.  You're whole management team is involved.  Do you continue to support a sinking ship, or do you cut losses to each entitiy by making a tough decision?

These types of decisions are made every day in this nation.  It's part of the business process.

In government, if you walk away, you may affect hundreds of thousands, or millions. Or even all of us.

Walk away.  Good grief.  In government if you try something that doesn't work, you tweak it.

Trump's whole platform is based on tweaking the Obama minefield.  He won't be able to talk away.  You'll be able to sleep okay.  After reading this post, I could be wrong on that.  You're obviously quite the worry wart, and you don't know how things work.  I can see how that would be quite disconcerting.