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F&M PA Poll: Trump 23, Carson 22, Rubio 13, Cruz 4
Franklin and Marshall ^ | 10/29/2015 | Franklin & Marshall

Posted on 10/29/2015 10:01:56 AM PDT by LS

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To: LS

I’ve been in Milwaukee for the last 3 days and I live in the Madison area -
WIBA and WISN - which have very conservative local commentators are totally hammering Trump as a RINO - I find it very odd..

Maybe butt hurt over Walker - but they are running the line that Trump is a RINO interloper... not to be trusted..

Mainly because of his donation history and his changes in stances.. i.e. abortion and health care.. and that we are blindly supporting Trump because he has fire...

The rest of he line up are chumps outside of Cruz.. no offense to the other guys, which are good in there own rights.. except Bush.. but I’m worried about the local press to kill Trump.. am I blind to this guy and being played?


21 posted on 10/29/2015 10:23:05 AM PDT by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: LS

So they’re weighing the selections of more than 300 democrats? What exactly are we expected to glean from it?


22 posted on 10/29/2015 10:24:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: LS

OK.. reading the text of the report it mentions “among registered Republicans.”


23 posted on 10/29/2015 10:27:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: xzins

Very much pre-debate.


24 posted on 10/29/2015 10:30:11 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: grania; LS

Rather then go into hysterics because their candidate of choice is not on top, the campaign bots around here might what to consider that is actually an impetus to their campaigns to work harder in these states.

Scoring in the polls is one thing, actually getting voters to the polls is a completely different kettle of fish. One of the worst thing that can happen to a campaign is they start coasting because of the good polling.


25 posted on 10/29/2015 10:33:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: dragnet2
Watch who has the most enthusiastic massive crowds.

Really? By this standard Bernie Sanders is the next President.

26 posted on 10/29/2015 10:34:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: NYRepublican72

231....The MOE is 6.5%... Still useless


27 posted on 10/29/2015 10:38:20 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: MNJohnnie

?? Sanders?

OOOkkk..


28 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:01 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: acw011

No, you are not blind.

Trump has since the 1980s been strongly Pro-Vet and has for decades helped our troops behind the scenes in a quiet, unselfish manner.

He has always been pro-2A.

He was shocked to see his companies employee health premiums go through the roof and he saw (correctly) the enemy as the health insurance companies setting RVUs by Medicare cost, meaning the federal government was goosing the payments demanded by doctors. It was all political. HIS FIRST IMPRESSION led to a counterattack on the health insurers by stating the Scottish Universal Healthcare System did better (but not now), but that was more than 15 years ago. It was an off-the-cuff opinion. When he got fully briefed, he realized the culprit was in the state monopolies that the largest health insurers had created.

Yes, as a businessman Trump had to donate to democrats. Put it this way, if Bill Gates III as CEO Microsoft had bother to donate to democrats in 1996, he would not have had his company nearly broken up in 1999-2000 by the Clinton DOJ on anti-monopoly charges. Trump was smart enough to donate to head off trouble. That’s the sick reality.

Trump also made off-the-cuff remarks about abortion many years ago. He is now pro-life since meeting an adult who survived an abortion attempt.

The thing to understand about Trump is he hears some shocking news and he blurts out an off-the-cuff FIRST IMPRESSION without full information. That appears as a personal weakness in him but then he gets people to brief him completely on the story so that he can be rational in his final response.

The reason we hear about his FIRST IMPRESSIONS is because he is so watched and documented by the media in everything he says and does. He’s not given enough time to digest all the facts and understand the consequences.

To get the picture out to folks, I explain it like this:

Babe Ruth at the bat.
Swing and a miss, boos from the crowd.
Swing and a miss, more boos from the crowd.
Boom! Over the fence!

Trump eventually gets it right and powerfully so.


29 posted on 10/29/2015 10:49:30 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: MNJohnnie; LS; grania
Yes, I agree. The close polling is a blessing in disguise. Trump already said he was going to "work harder" as a result of them. Which is what we need him to do. Complacency today can be fatal tomorrow.

As well, Trump and Carson combined are between 45-55% depending on what poll you look at. The establishment candidates are way, way behind.

30 posted on 10/29/2015 10:56:37 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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To: LS

“The data included in this release represent the responses of 614 Pennsylvania registered voters, including 303 Democrats, 231 Republicans, and 80 Independents. MOE: 3.9%”

No. This is where that dusty ol book comes in handy. The true MOE is 100%

LOL.


31 posted on 10/29/2015 11:38:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: LS

More democrats in the poll skewing the results.


32 posted on 10/29/2015 11:46:17 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I wonder where in a closed primary the 80 independents are reflected.


33 posted on 10/29/2015 11:48:19 AM PDT by map
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To: map

I would assume that the independents were not asked the Dem/GOP primary questions, but were asked the other questions in the poll (Obama approval, right-track/wrong-track, etc.)


34 posted on 10/29/2015 11:55:03 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: LS

Horrible start to the debate! Disrespected Mr. Trump! Trump has been running a fantastic campaign! I listen to his speeches that are recorded and see the crowds! He will win. He should have not told the Marxist media what it would take for him to exit, cause they are manufacturing the polls to dishearten him. Recent polls are incoming - psyops only! Trust the crowds! Trust the crowds! Election Day is the only real poll worth winning!


35 posted on 10/29/2015 12:37:03 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: xzins

Yes, pre debate.


36 posted on 10/29/2015 1:43:46 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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