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Carson in Iowa: Use oil subsidies for ethanol
The Hill ^ | 5/6/15 | Devin Henry

Posted on 10/24/2015 6:51:14 AM PDT by jimbo123

Newly minted Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told an Iowa audience on Tuesday that he would use the savings from ending oil industry subsidies to pay for new ethanol blending stations.

Carson, in his first speech in the state as a candidate, was asked by a voter about the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS), the federal mandate that fuel refiners blend a certain volume of ethanol and biodiesel into their gasoline and diesel supplies. "I don't particularly like the idea of government subsidies for anything because it interferes with the natural free market," Carson said, according to The Des Moines Register.

“Therefore, I would probably be in favor of taking that $4 billion a year we spend on oil subsidies and using that in new fueling stations" for 30 percent ethanol blends, he added.

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To: mountn man

We need that corn to be used to feed our FOOD - not burned as fuel.


41 posted on 10/24/2015 7:52:12 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: cripplecreek
"He's not the only ethanol pimp out there.

Donald Trump supports Renewable Fuel Standard"

On ignore, are you? LOL

42 posted on 10/24/2015 7:56:00 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: grania

How about using it to feed our FOOD?

Have you seen the price of beef lately? 0.0

A few weeks ago, we just spent $35 on a roast. It wasn’t even prime beef! Just a crock pot roast. Unreal.


43 posted on 10/24/2015 7:56:24 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Apparently.


44 posted on 10/24/2015 7:57:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Marie
I agree completely.

Higher corn prices mean higher food prices.

Cows, chickens and pigs all eat corn.

Cows, chickens and pigs is food.

Beef and pork are up about 50% in the stores, over the last 3 or so years.

45 posted on 10/24/2015 7:58:38 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Marie
Just a few years ago, I could catch ground beef on sale, at the store I normaly shop, for about $2.00 a pound. Now, it usually goes on sale at about $3.00.

A few weeks ago it went down to $2.69 (highly unusual) for 80/20, so I bought 30#.

46 posted on 10/24/2015 8:10:24 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

Here eggs are $4 a carton. Hamburger is more than $4 a pound for the 80/20. A roast will set you back $6 a pound. A 1 pound bag of raw beans will cost you $2.50.

We’re a small town. Rather isolated. We’re paying big city prices. (Hell, we’re paying more than the big cities. Things are cheaper in Tucson. Our gas is at highway prices.)


47 posted on 10/24/2015 8:30:52 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Marie
We’re a small town. Rather isolated. We’re paying big city prices.

Actually, living in/near the big city can have advantages at times. Groceries can be one example. Large chains buy in bulk for lower costs, plus competition from other stores, can keep prices down.

Meijer is a regional chain. They go toe to toe with Walmart.

90% of what I buy for groceries is stuff on sale. Add to that Meijers "loyalty" program, that can save me another 10-25%.

Example.
Meijer has a reward program, that changes regularly.
One reward I had was to spend $175 over 4 weeks and get back $6.
During that same time frame, another reward came along, spend $55 on fresh meat, over 4 weeks, get $6 back.

So the $55 also worked towards the $175.

Pork loin was one of the meats to go on sale. $1.49 a lb. So, I bought 20# and cut it into pork chops.

My pork chops ended up costing me $1.28 a lb.
Regular cut pork chops regularly run on sale, about $3.49 a lb.

Kind of hard for a small town, small country store to compete against something like that.

48 posted on 10/24/2015 8:52:14 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Marie
Eggs have recently gone up to $2.50 a dozen.
There is a gas station chain in Wi., Kwik Trip, that sells eggs, I imagine as a loss leader, for $1.00 - $1.29 a dozen. When I'm up that way I'll stop in and stock up.

The Walgreens by me, sells Deans milk for $2.50 a gal. with Balance Rewards, vs $4 in the stores.

Friends of mine used to live in Montana. About 1-1/2 hours from Billings. It doesn't get much more small town than that.
They'd go into Billings about once a month and do nearly all of their shopping. Costco has decent meat at good prices.
They'd take coolers with and buy a months supply or more of meat and milk and such.

49 posted on 10/24/2015 9:10:51 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Bryan24

“Ben Carson may be a brain surgeon, but he doesn’t know squat about energy.

We need to end ALL ethanol subsidies.”

Absolutely! The idea of putting Ethanol in gasoline is a very bad idea. Ethanol is ruinous to IC engines, and we only get by by restricting it to 10%. Now, to protect my chain saws, generator. and other gasoline-engine powered stuff by purchasing “clear” unleaded regular gasoline at a cost of about $7.00 a quart. Otherwise, the ethanol-blends used in cars destroy these tools so they don’t work when you go to use them. The major problem with ethanol is that it is corrosive. People who use alcohol in racing applications “clean out” their fuel systems and engines with straight gasoline at the end of the day for a reason.


50 posted on 10/24/2015 9:12:47 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: jimbo123

a very dangerous man....


51 posted on 10/24/2015 9:52:03 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: mountn man

We’re paying $4 for eggs and $4 for a gallon of milk.

I’m going to do a little digging into this.


52 posted on 10/24/2015 10:07:37 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: mountn man

We’re higher than the national average, but not by much.

You’re getting great deals. What state are you in?

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ap


53 posted on 10/24/2015 10:09:58 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Marie
You’re getting great deals. What state are you in?

Confusion :)

Illinois

54 posted on 10/24/2015 10:21:44 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

lol! (good one)


55 posted on 10/24/2015 10:23:30 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Bryan24
We need to end ALL ethanol subsidies.

We need to end ALL ethanol subsidies.

56 posted on 10/24/2015 10:40:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: jimbo123

No different than any of the fools in office now.

Just another whore.


57 posted on 10/24/2015 10:42:27 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Marie
Walgreens is a national chain. Find out what they sell eggs and milk for, by you. Look into their Balance Rewards card.

Milk can be frozen. Eggs have a fairly long shelf life.

We have something here called GFS (Gordon Food Service). They provide stuff to restaurants and things like daycares and camps. Similar to Sysco or US Foods. Check to see if they have something similar to you, that are open to the public.

Meat wise, I know people who are happy with Costco. For me, I'm fortunate that the stores by me run sales frequently, that bring their prices below that of Costco or Sams. But for me, its my freezers, that allow me to shop the meat sales and stock up.

I also have a bedroom that is a big food pantry.

The holidays are approaching.
Things like butter and canned vegetables, canned pineapple, French's fried onions, cranberry sauce, baking items like sugar, flour, chocolate chips go on year low prices. Certain Campbells soups like Crm of Mush, Crm of Chix, Chix Noodle, and Tomato go on steep sales, generally about 1/2 price. Crms of Mush and Chix are staples in certain dishes. I'll buy a years supply.

With a huge pantry and freezers, I generally have what I want, or at least what I need. It allows me to shop according to what is on sale...on sale at a good price...versus buying when prices are high.

Turkeys will be going on sale soon. Kinda tough to beat a $0.59 a lb price on turkeys. I'll get 1 for the holiday meal and 3-4 for the rest of the year. I love a deep fried turkey...anytime of the year. Then I have cheap leftovers for quite a while.

I do the same with hams that go on sale. Buy one for the holiday, then buy a couple more for later in the year.

Considering there is just 2 of us, I'll take a large ham and cut it into 1/3's or 1/4's and freeze them. Small 2-3 lb hams are great for a Sunday dinner and give good left overs. That way great meals don't have to be just during the holidays.

Target and Walmart as well as most chains have holiday sales. They'll display their ads online. Plan ahead, then go into the city where either/or is at and buy up.

Example

Canned vegetables will be about $0.50-$0.59 a can. About 1/2 price from normal. I'll literally buy 200 cans of vegetables (or whatever I need to restock the shelves) if I save $0.50 a can, that's $100 I've saved.

Land O'Lakes butter will be $2.50. about $1.50 less than normal. I'm almost out. So I'll buy 60 lbs and freeze it. That's a $90 savings.

You might be away from the big city. But I'm sure you still have to go occasionally. Just make those trips really count.

There is a small farm in Abbottsford, Wis. that I get real maple syrup from. Normal store price for maple syrup is $19 a quart. I'll get it from the farm for $40 for a gallon (much better maple flavor)
(ps...they ship...if needed)(still cheaper than store bought)

Learned what I know, by shopping the deals over the last 10 years. Still learning new stuff.

58 posted on 10/24/2015 11:13:41 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: jimbo123

Possibly part of the cause of Carson’s rise in the polls for Iowa is the huge ad buys by Club for Growth—anti-Trump ads.


59 posted on 10/24/2015 2:16:53 PM PDT by firebrand
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