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People v Jennifer Jorgensen (Breaking: NY Appeals Court rules a six-day-old child is not a person)
New York State Court of Appeals ^ | 10/22/15 | New York State Court of Appeals

Posted on 10/22/2015 7:19:44 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

On May 30, 2008, defendant, driving eastbound on Whiskey Road in Suffolk County, entered the westbound lane and struck the vehicle of Robert and Mary Kelly head on, killing them both. At the time of the collision, defendant was 34 weeks pregnant. She was taken to a local hospital where, due to signs of fetal distress, she consented to an emergency cesarean section.

Despite the best efforts of hospital personnel, the baby died six days later. An autopsy confirmed that the cause of death was due to injuries sustained in the accident....

Following deliberations, the jury returned a verdict finding the defendant not guilty on all counts except manslaughter in the second degree for the death of her child. The Appellate Division affirmed defendant's conviction (113 AD3d 793 [2d Dept 2014]). A Judge of this Court granted defendant leave to appeal. We now reverse

The underlying facts and circumstances of this appeal are tragic to all parties involved. The sole issue that we reach on this appeal, however, is whether a woman can be convicted of manslaughter for reckless conduct that she engaged in while pregnant that caused injury to the fetus in utero where the child was born alive but died as a result of that injury days later We hold that it is evident from the statutory scheme that the legislature, in enacting Penal Law § 125.05 (1) and § 125.15 (1), did not intend to hold pregnant women criminally responsible for conduct with respect to themselves and their unborn fetuses unless such conduct is done intentionally...

Had the legislature intended to include pregnant women in the class of individuals who may be guilty of manslaughter in the second degree for reckless acts committed while pregnant, resulting in the eventual death of their child, it could clearly have done so. Moreover, had defendant's fetus died in utero, then, plainly, defendant could not have been prosecuted under the manslaughter statute because the fetus would not have fallen under the definition of a "person" ...had defendant not consented to the cesarean section with the result that the child be born alive, she would not have been prosecuted for manslaughter in the second degree. Thus, if we accorded the word "person" the interpretation advocated by the People, it would create a perverse incentive for a pregnant woman to refuse a cesarean section out of fear that if her baby is born alive she would face criminal charges for her alleged reckless conduct, jeopardizing the health of the woman and the unborn fetus. This is plainly not what the legislature intended when it enacted the definition of "person" under section 125.05 (1) or the manslaughter in the second degree offense as delineated in Penal Law § 125.15 (1).

The imposition of criminal liability upon pregnant women for acts committed against a fetus that is later born and subsequently dies as a result of injuries sustained while in utero should be clearly defined by the legislature, not the courts. It should also not be left to the whim of the prosecutor.

FAHEY, J.(dissenting): I respectfully dissent and would affirm the Appellate Division’s order. I cannot join in a result that analyzes our statutes to determine that a six-day-old child is not a person...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; fetus; life; manslaughter; moralabsolutes; personhood; prolife
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To: BBB333

I suppose in your world, a hung jury is well endowed.


41 posted on 10/22/2015 8:45:35 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: uncitizen

Too many judges are INhuman.


42 posted on 10/22/2015 8:45:50 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Trumpinator

That “power” had so much hatred for Christ that it killed
hundreds of very young children rather than to risk Christ
coming of age . . and, even now, the rage is so consuming
that the power still pursues the kin of the child. Now,
the anger belongs to God; and His fury is about to “come up
in His face” resulting in blood up to the horses’ bridles
for many miles and the armies representing this power will
fight in total confusion & friendly fire.


43 posted on 10/22/2015 8:47:46 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Don’t you have to stop and pause at a few things: Shouldn’t the NY legislature be the ones to make this a crime? We are tired of rogue prosecutors coming up with theories of liability, whether it involves using Sarbanes-Oxley to prosecute under-sized fish (Yates decision) or using Chemical Weapons laws to go after a jilted lover (Bond). I don’t want courts making up laws, and I don’t want prosecutors creating laws through enforcement strategies.


44 posted on 10/22/2015 8:57:36 AM PDT by drb9
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To: jurroppi1; BBB333

I have already been corrected. See post #27.

Thank you.


45 posted on 10/22/2015 8:57:48 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Here we go again w/ courts/judges reading into that which is not there: deeming the Law didn’t INTEND one way or another.

B.S. What does the Law SAY. Words have meaning and they should have meant EXACTLY what the Law said

Course, now, the lawyers are all in a tizzy for all the $$ coming their way from clients convicted on the basis that the child (in-utero) is a person and had possibly years added to their sentence.


46 posted on 10/22/2015 9:09:10 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Michael.SF.

OK then


47 posted on 10/22/2015 9:11:33 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: BBB333
Dictionary

1hung

Definition of HUNG

past and past participle of hang

2hung
adjective
Definition of HUNG

: unable to reach a decision or verdict ; also British : not having a political party with an overall majority
Examples of HUNG

First Known Use of HUNG

1848
Related to HUNG
Synonyms
bowed, bowing, declined, declining, descendant (also descendent), descending, drooping, droopy, hanging, nodding, inclining, pendulous, sagging, stooping, weeping

Antonyms
unbending, upright

Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary

48 posted on 10/22/2015 9:11:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

When will it be a person? At 5? Or at 18? Or if it a conservative, never?


49 posted on 10/22/2015 9:19:03 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: BBB333

Yeah, after I posted this I was like...”It should’ve been hanged.”

Oh well, I think you knew what I meant.


50 posted on 10/22/2015 9:23:57 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

’Carly Fiorina Was Right’: Group Releases Full Abortion Video Mentioned in GOP Debate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3344264/posts

**WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT**
{See the link above which includes actual photos and videos}

...

The graphic video of a “fully formed fetus… its legs kicking” appears in episode 3 of a multi-part documentary produced by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP). This video shows former tissue procurement specialist Holly O’Donnell describing how she was shown an intact fetus with a beating heart. O’Donnell says of this moment, “I don’t know if that constitutes it’s technically dead, or it’s alive.” O’Donnell was then asked to harvest brain tissue from the same fetus by cutting through its face.

As O’Donnell narrates her gruesome experience, the video shifts to 10 seconds of a fetus in a metal bowl which is still moving. The video is clearly labeled as coming from the Grantham Collection & Center for Bioethical Reform. It is not video of the fetus O’Donnell is describing but was inserted by the producers to illustrate what a living fetus at this gestation would look like.


51 posted on 10/22/2015 9:28:08 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"The sole issue that we reach on this appeal, however, is whether a woman can be convicted of manslaughter for reckless conduct that she engaged in while pregnant..."

Whether the decision is right or wrong on it's actual issue, the issue isn't about the status of a six day old child.

52 posted on 10/22/2015 9:45:52 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Rinnwald

Every member of the hung jury was hanged.


53 posted on 10/22/2015 9:50:09 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They may or may not be, but they certainly should be hanged.
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LOL! Okay, I really opened myself up for ridicule on this one! :-D


54 posted on 10/22/2015 9:56:41 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Noumenon

Whether they are hung or not is a matter of speculation. But they should all be hanged.

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LOL! Where’s the “Reset Button” when you need it? ;-)


55 posted on 10/22/2015 9:58:24 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Michael.SF.

“. . .and I would vote to convict. “

Even if she was on her way to have an abortion?

Just askin’. . . .


56 posted on 10/22/2015 10:05:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Artcore

The murder lobby wants it legal to murder children up to six years old.


57 posted on 10/22/2015 10:46:21 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Old Sarge; null and void; Velveeta; Myrddin; Califreak; Salvation; ...
At the time of the collision, defendant was 34 weeks pregnant. She was taken to a local hospital where, due to signs of fetal distress, she consented to an emergency cesarean section.

Despite the best efforts of hospital personnel, the baby died six days later.

An autopsy confirmed that the cause of death was due to injuries sustained in the accident.... Following deliberations, the jury returned a verdict finding

....a six-day-old child is not a person

58 posted on 10/22/2015 10:57:20 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Auntie Dem

You get it. It should have been three counts, not just one.


59 posted on 10/22/2015 12:05:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Auntie Dem

I believe she was charged with those deaths as well and Aqquited by a jury.


60 posted on 10/22/2015 12:16:39 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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