Posted on 10/20/2015 9:16:55 AM PDT by Biggirl
On Tuesdays New Day on CNN, Republican presidential front-runner defended his response aimed at his GOP opponent former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL), who had claimed in a debate earlier this month that the country was kept safe under former President George W. Bush.
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It’s obvious anyone not trying to score political points that Trump is saying 2 things here. First he’s saying that they knew something was coming because HE knew something was coming (with less intelligence data then they had) and secondly he’s saying that you can’t say you kept people safe when the worst terrorist attack in the history of the country happened while you were in office. There was also an attack at LAX on Bush’s watch. Doesn’t mean he didn’t do a good job protecting the homeland after 9/11 considering the fact that they probably had other plans in the works but to suggest that everything counts except the actual attack is a disingenuous argument at best
“However, if hes going there at all Id be a lot happier if hed also throw Clinton in the bathwater along with Bush.”
This is the primary season! There will be plenty of time to beat Hillary over the head with it when the time comes. And just maybe if Slo Joe is the candidate, not to have to waste any rocks on Hillary.
All I see in this thread are a bunch of usual suspect GOP cheer leaders being unable to accept the truth as usual.
People that don’t support Trump and never did are doing their usual.
You guys should vote for Jeb if you disagree with what Trump has said so much.
Put your vote where your mouth is, or shut up.
Not just the Democrats, but their most vile leftwing conspiracy kooks.
This is what happens when you get a cult of personality scenario going. These Trumpsters support the man to such a degree that he can do no wrong. We've seen this through history, it rarely ends well.
Patience, Grasshopper.
and the Bush administration never stepped it up a notch after all those warnings.. maybe an investigation on where all the young 18 to 40 year old muslim males were that had come into the country in the last few years would have been a great start..
just one agent inquiring about young muslim men here on a visa taking flying lessons and the instructor finding it odd they never bothered with the lessons on how to land the planes they just wanted lessons on how to fly them after they were in the air.. light bulb goes off...but they did zip
So what efforts were taken?
If you don't stop it, it's your fault.
First rule of leadership: the buck stops at the top. Blaming the Clinton administration for 9 months of inaction isn't a good position to take.
Sure, you can spread blame around, but you can't argue that terrorism was Bush's top priority-- at least not until after 911. It's just not there. There was nothing stopping the chief executive from ordering the FBI to reveal any information they might have.
An immense cost in both blood and treasure. A monumental failure of leadership with long standing implications that are yet to be fully realized.
"Dont expect that you will find many people standing up to defend Ws honor. It may not feel good hearing what he is saying, but even I had to start questioning my 100000% cheer-leading for many stupid decisions W made back then.
I too cheered a little too much for W. Its always a good thing to maintain a skeptical attitude about those in power.
It’s all a failure in leadership. Presidents or people at the top of their respective organizations set the tone and set into motion actions for their organizations. For presidents, it’s the Executive Branch of government. There was no sense of urgency put in motion, which would have been the appropriate response here.
The title of that August 6th PDB Rice stated to the Commission,
“Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside The United States.”
So did other folks. It is not knowing the specifics of when and where the attack would happen that Trump is, to me, saying that Bush should have known, and is making folks think that he, Trump knew.
How about you shut up, spouting the idiotic idea that our only two choices are the co-jackasses of Jeb and The Donald. Have you ever considered supporting a conservative in this race?
They were retarded kines of abnormalities, like extremely bad grammar, barely legible, fake city names, claiming to be married but not filling in information about a spouse, huge areas of the applications missing, etc. There is no reason they should have ever been accepted.
And yes, several of them had overstayed their Visas, and were thus illegally in the country.
Yes. The sheer scale of the operation makes the assertion that they did not know *anything* about it seem a bit silly.
Also, the rapidity with which the Saudis were flown out of the country was somewhat suspect.
Trump is careful to keep the right amount of ambiguity in statements like that. He would point out the drawbacks of flouridation, then let the media run wild stories about Dr. Strangelove, then point out that scientifically his statment was correct. It's all about the free publicity and securing the anti-liberal vote.
Think about it this way, the more the New York Times attacks him, the more the average Joe likes him.
Yes...It’s hard to keep the country safe in the climate but that’s the point. He wasn’t able to (even if he tried). One can certainly argue that someone who had that as their absolute main focus could have shook the right tree
Enough already on this.
Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside The United States.
And there were various PDB’s, at various times, that said ‘USSR determined to attack the United States’ yet we never built an ABM system.
And I’m willing to wager, that the Rice PDB did not include the Pentagon and twin towers as specific targets. It is one think to determine a threat, it is a different matter to determine when, where, and how the threat will be executed. And 36 days between the PDB & the actual attack meant what would have been done that would have stopped it?
There’s nothing of that sort in the entire quotation, though they did know enough that an attack was imminent, and Bush was asked specifically for permission to increase covert action against Al-Qaeda, which evidently did not get approved until 6 days after the 911 attacks:
“There were more details, as laid out by one of Tenets top analysts, known in the book as Rich B. Tenet recounts his aide telling Rice and others, The attack will be spectacular. and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities and interests. Attack preparations have been made, he said. Multiple and simultaneous attacks are possible, and they will occur with little or no warning. Al-Qaida is waiting us out and looking for vulnerability.
Rice, Tenet wrote, reacted positively to the briefing and asked her counter terrorism adviser, Richard Clarke, if he agreed with the assessment. Clarke said he did, and Tenet said he and his aides left the meeting feeling that Rice understood the threat. However, he wrote, the White House never followed up on the presidential finding that Tenet had been asking for since March, authorizing broader covert action against al-Qaida. That finding was signed by President Bush on Sept. 17, six days after the attacks.
Roger Cressey, who was Clarkes deputy and is now an NBC News counter terrorism analyst, says one thing that is missing from Tenets description of the events is that the intelligence pointed to overseas attacks. although CIA did tell officials that they couldnt discount an attack on the US homeland.”
The Donald fears nothing, especially not common sense.
You know, you’re right. Bush could not have done anything to prevent the attack. I mean we didn’t have NSA, CIA, or anything like that.
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