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What is Initiative 42
42forbetterschools.com ^ | October 5, 2015 | Better Schools, Better Jobs

Posted on 10/14/2015 11:55:15 AM PDT by DrewsMum

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Can't find anything on this here. Mississippi needs Freeper input.
1 posted on 10/14/2015 11:55:15 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: WKB

Are there any articles here in Initiative 42?


2 posted on 10/14/2015 11:56:49 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum
What is Initiative 42

I hope it's nothing like Order 66...


3 posted on 10/14/2015 11:58:27 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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To: BerniesFriend

I’m more of a “Rule 303” kind of guy.


4 posted on 10/14/2015 11:58:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BerniesFriend

Or Agenda 21 : )


5 posted on 10/14/2015 11:59:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: DrewsMum

Its the answer to life, the universe and everything.


6 posted on 10/14/2015 12:00:38 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: DrewsMum

at the link, looks like a referendum on the Mississippi ballot - I think DrewsMum is asking our opinion.


7 posted on 10/14/2015 12:05:32 PM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Pietro

“Its the answer to life, the universe and everything.”

Ah yes. “The One Thing”


8 posted on 10/14/2015 12:08:42 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: BerniesFriend

Alright wise guys, yes I was looking for some quick info. I haven’t had time to research the topic and several friends and family are confused as to how to vote.

Normally I would have done the research myself, but in a pinch, I look to people who are smarter than me. .... Freepers


9 posted on 10/14/2015 12:09:22 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/opinion/columnists/2015/10/09/gipson-voting-against-initiative-42/73675424/


10 posted on 10/14/2015 12:11:18 PM PDT by struggle
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To: DrewsMum
It's double Agenda 21. Double. Be prepared to drive a carrot-powered tricycle and live in a 100 square foot condo in a renovated grain silo to Save the Planet. :)
11 posted on 10/14/2015 12:11:50 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: knittnmom

We have the same problem out here in Washington. State law mandates full funding but the legislature continuously fails to do it. Now the state supreme court is involved. I wonder if any state is actually fully funding their schools? You wouldn’t know it by the product they turn out.


12 posted on 10/14/2015 12:13:31 PM PDT by beelzepug (liberalism is not...a political philosophy. It is a stage of arrested emotional development.)
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To: DrewsMum
Initiative 42 is the same formula money grab that has been done in many states; the embezzlement of public funds for lavish unfunded retirements and cadillac benefits has deeply impacted the abilities of districts to provide the services they receive tax money for - you know, educating children. To cover up these impossible financial burdens, school districts are demanding more money as all the current money is allocated to pay for teacher (and especially administration) benefits.

Vote no. Real accountability only exists if districts pay for EVERY benefit they wish to promise WITH THE YEARLY BUDGET. No more shackling future generations with their giveaways of promises for benefits that no one can afford.

13 posted on 10/14/2015 12:14:09 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DrewsMum

The title of another crappy novel by L. Ron Hubbard?


14 posted on 10/14/2015 12:16:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: beelzepug

If the priority was education and not stealing the public’s money, they’d turn out far better. Benefits account for nearly half of most school budgets now. There’s plenty of money to operate every school, buy every child what they need to handle school, but instead it is all going into the pockets of teachers and administrators - truthfully, more of it will go into the pockets of retirees this year than active employees. It is unsustainable.


15 posted on 10/14/2015 12:16:38 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DrewsMum

Ok..just did a quick research on Initiative 42..I would vote no..yes, the legislature should have always funded the public school system like they promised in 1997, but this is a power grab for the courts. And we all can see what happens when judges appoint themselves School Board Czars..my two cents..


16 posted on 10/14/2015 12:21:57 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; DrewsMum

It was the order issued to Kirk to pursue Klingon “Birds of Prey” into the Romulan neutral zone in spite of treaty rules.

The Klingons called it “Ch’ok tu VLAK!”

That’s from the Old-middle-High Klingon translation though...


17 posted on 10/14/2015 12:22:56 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DrewsMum
Public Schools Funding  

Original Filing:

Should the State be required to provide for the support of an adequate and efficient system of free public schools?

Summary:The amendment will protect each child's fundamental right to educational opportunity through the 12th grade by amending Section 201 so that the state must provide and the legislature must fund an adequate and efficient system of free public schools. The recommendation is to finance this not by new taxes but by using a portion of future increases in general fund revenues over the next seven years in order to reach the necessary level of funding.

Section 201: Educational opportunity for public school children

To protect each child's fundamental right to educational opportunity, the State shall provide for the establishment, maintenance and support of an adequate and efficient system of free public schools. The chancery courts of this State shall have the power to enforce this section with appropriate injunctive relief.

Amount and Source of Revenue Required to Implement the Initiative:

For purposes of the initiative, a minimum standard of contemporary adequate education is described by the funding formula of the current version of the Mississippi Adequate Education Program and an efficient education is one that will, among other things, enable Mississippi's public school graduates to compete favorably with their counterparts in surrounding states.

Funding the initiative will not require a reduction in, elimination of, or reallocation of funding from any currently funded programs. The initiative will be funded by maintaining current funding levels for public education through the 12th grade adjusted for inflation, and then devoting to public education not less than 25% of future increases in general fund and other tax collections in order to achieve the constitutionally required level of adequacy and efficiency in the public educational system by a target date of Fiscal Year 2022 and maintain it in the future. For example, the state's general fund revenues are projected to increase over Fiscal Year 2014 levels by approximately 3% annually, which will produce an additional $150 million in Fiscal Year 2015. Twenty-five percent of that would be $37.5 million. A similar amount for seven years would reach the additional $265 million a year in current dollars which will be needed to provide Mississippi's public school students with an education that is adequate and efficient by contemporary standards. This initiative is not intended to restrict or meaningfully reduce the overall percentage of general fund revenues devoted to public schools, which at present is approximately 40% If enforcement is necessary, injunctive relief will be the preferred remedy.


Ballot Title
Should the State be required to provide for the support of an adequate and efficient system of free public schools?

Ballot Summary
Initiative #42 would protect each child's fundamental right to educational opportunity through the 12th grade by amending Section 201 of the Mississippi Constitution to require that the State must provide and the legislature must fund an adequate and efficient system of free public schools. This initiative would also authorize the chancery courts of this State to enforce this section with appropriate injunctive relief.

Mississippi Public School Support Amendments, Initiative 42 and Alternative 42 (2015)

The Mississippi Public School Support Amendments, Initiative 42 and Alternative 42 are on the November 3, 2015 ballot as indirect initiated constitutional amendments. The two amendments will appear on the ballot as competing measures, after the Mississippi Legislature placed Alternative 42 on the ballot.

On the ballot, voters will see two questions.

The first question will ask them to choose between "either measure" or "neither measure" becoming law. Next, they will be presented with the actual measures, which they can vote for or against, regardless of their answer to the first question.

If a majority chooses "either measure," then the measure from the second question with the most votes will become law, so long as that measure also receives at least 40 percent of the total number of ballots cast in the election. If a majority chooses "neither measure," then neither amendment becomes law.[1]

Initiative 42 would require the state government to establish, maintain and support "an adequate and efficient system of free public schools." The Mississippi Chancery Courts would be empowered to enforce the amendment's mandate. The amendment's stated purpose is "to protect each child's fundamental right to educational opportunity."[2]

Alternative 42 would require the state legislature to establish, maintain and support "an effective system of free public schools upon such conditions and limitations as the Legislature may prescribe."[3] Unlike Initiative 42, Alternative 42 does not empower the judiciary to enforce the amendment's mandate, provide for "an adequate... system of free public schools," nor inscribe a "fundamental right to educational opportunity" for each child in the Mississippi Constitution.

Initiative 42 does not mandate a specific method, other than that already prescribed by the Mississippi Adequate Education Program (MAEP), for the state to support "an adequate and efficient system of free public schools." Rather, the state legislature would devise a plan to meet the amendment's requirement. Initiative 42's filing petition does, however, make a recommendation about how to achieve the amendment's mandate. Proponents suggest that at least 25 percent of future general fund revenue generated from economic growth be allocated to public schools until they are adequately and efficiently funded.[2]

Alternative 42 is the first amendment in the state's history proposed by the Mississippi Legislature to counter an initiated constitutional amendment. According to Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann (R), "This is the first time since 1817, and we became a state 200 years ago, that we have competing legislative amendments. We have 100,000 people who signed the petition to have one amendment and we have the legislature who has signed a counter amendment."[4]


18 posted on 10/14/2015 12:25:02 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough--the Low Information President Obie from Nairobi goes golfing/fundraising)
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To: dfwgator
I’m more of a “Rule 303” kind of guy.

I can't believe you would "boer" us with that line!!!

too soon?

19 posted on 10/14/2015 12:25:37 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

This initiative if passed will someday result in a court ORDERING that taxes be raised and more money given to the public schools.

Already happened in Nevada.


20 posted on 10/14/2015 12:28:06 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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