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Christie would shoot down Russian planes, commit U.S. troops vs. ISIS in Syria
nj.com ^ | October 12, 2015 | Claude Brodesser-Akner

Posted on 10/12/2015 2:45:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

GOP presidential candidate Gov. Chris Christie savaged President Obama's escalation-averse foreign policy in Syria this morning, saying he would create a "no-fly" zone in the areas where Russian air strikes have targeted U.S.-supported insurgent groups and even commit U.S. ground forces against ISIS.

On Fox News, Christie said the first thing Christie would do in Syria would be to "call Putin, and tell him, 'Listen, we're enforcing a no-fly zone against everyone, and that includes you, so: Don't test me.'"

"And then he flies through your territory?" asked host Martha MacCallum.

"You take him down," answered Christie, without hesitation.

"You shoot him down?" asked MacCallum.

"Yes you do," said Christie.

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TOPICS: Germany; Israel; Politics/Elections; Russia; Syria; US: New Jersey; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What is “ our territory” in Syria?

Has the UN or the US Congress authorized us to claim and defend parts of Syria? Has Assad been charged tried and convicted by a World Court? Whose government is it, anyway?

Christie is such a rank dummass it is embarrassing


61 posted on 10/12/2015 3:56:05 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Are all the expatriate Russian Welfare Cheats living in New Jersey fans of Christie? If so, they aren’t anymore.


62 posted on 10/12/2015 3:58:22 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hope his comments are circulated far and wide. We do NOT need his kind in office.


63 posted on 10/12/2015 4:02:30 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Idiot


64 posted on 10/12/2015 4:02:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: hoosiermama
"Have been wondering if there is a map of Russia and its neighbors showing where the Muslim live. They have been dealing with the Religion of Pieces much longer than us. AND iirc the battles are much closer to their government."

Here's some information that might be helpful. There are no battles between Russia and its Muslim military allies, but they are quite cozy with each other.

Russia has military friends in its Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO: members listed below).

All of the following excerpts are from the CIA World Factbook (as accessed on 4MAY14).

Russia
Religions:
Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.) note: estimates are of practicing worshipers; Russia has large populations of non-practicing believers and non-believers, a legacy of over seven decades of Soviet rule

Kazakhstan
Religions:
Muslim 70.2%, Christian 26.2% (Russian Orthodox 23.9%, other Christian 2.3%), Buddhist 0.1%, other 0.2%, atheist 2.8%, unspecified 0.5% (2009 Census)

Kyrgyzstan
Religions:
Muslim 75%, Russian Orthodox 20%, other 5%

Tajikistan
Religions:
Sunni Muslim 85%, Shia Muslim 5%, other 10% (2003 est.)


Belarus
Government restrictions on freedom of speech and the press, peaceful assembly, and religion remain in place.
Religions:
Eastern Orthodox 80%, other (including Roman Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and Muslim) 20% (1997 est.)

Armenia
Religions:
Armenian Apostolic 92.6%, Evangelical 1%, other 2.4%, none 1.1%, unspecified 2.9% (2011 est.)

Collective Security Treaty Organization
Wikipedia

Member states[edit]

Current members
Armenia (2002)
Belarus (2002)
Kazakhstan (2002)
Kyrgyzstan (2002)
Russia (2002)
Tajikistan (2002)

Observers
Afghanistan (2013)
Serbia (2013)

Possible candidates
Iran

Former members
Azerbaijan (joined 1994, withdrew 1999)
Georgia (joined 1994, withdrew 1999)
Uzbekistan (joined 1994, withdrew 2012)

"Putin is now a practicing Orthodox Christian. So how does that even play into these battles
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/09-10-2015/132287-syria_chstianity-0/
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The Russian Orthodox Church was the only USSR-approved church in the Soviet Union. Here's more on Russia's stand on terrorism and religion.

Russians Respect Reason For Terrorism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210347/posts

Russia calls for banning Judaism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431407/posts

Russia probing whether Jewish law constitutes incitement ["first time since Stalin's regime"]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431367/posts

Putin: Russia Building Nuclear Weapon U.S. Won't Have
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1282021/posts

Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513904/posts


65 posted on 10/12/2015 4:43:34 PM PDT by familyop (You're fired.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m no naive peacenik. But what is it with these politicians ? Trying so desperately it seems to conger up implausible or even absurd scenarios to provoke full- scale war with Russia - and for what?


66 posted on 10/12/2015 4:54:48 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: familyop

Interesting.
Years ago I ran across the trails used to smuggle drugs. The relationship between Afghanistan and Russia was all evolved around the drugs. Grown in Afghanistan, manufactured in Russia. One article said it second only to oil in Soviet economy
The need of Croatia to distribute the drugs to Europe was pointed out even then :otherwise the trail was almost tripled. Saved material to the old computer that crashed and haven’t looked into it since.
BUT its always in the back of mind when dealing with anything Russian


67 posted on 10/12/2015 5:23:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Message to Governor Christie:

This is the big leagues with major league consequences for being wrong; you’re not telling people in South Jersey to ‘get the hell off the beach’ because a hurricane is coming.


68 posted on 10/12/2015 5:23:15 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I had him figured for another fool. Confirmed.

Agg to the list of certain dolts running.

Snarly
Been
Murko
Chrispy cream

Let him go. Stuff his fat ass in an airplane.


69 posted on 10/12/2015 5:24:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Psalm 144

Obama is sending our Navy to cruise through the sea territory that China is claiming. I think he wants to get our people killed and lose ships.


70 posted on 10/12/2015 5:49:11 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The sugar in all those donuts have clogged his cranial arteries..


71 posted on 10/12/2015 6:25:15 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Christie needs to stick to holding up contractors and riding around Jersey in his limo.


72 posted on 10/12/2015 6:29:05 PM PDT by anton
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Tony Soprano diplomacy.


73 posted on 10/12/2015 7:03:09 PM PDT by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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To: gaijin
And gain WHAT...??

A few more pounds?

74 posted on 10/12/2015 7:48:17 PM PDT by America_Right (Time to play your Trump card, America. Use it or lose it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Syria has donuts? Who knew?


75 posted on 10/12/2015 7:55:16 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: CondorFlight

And after WWIII and the Ruskies nuke New Jersey...?
___________________________________________________

Too late.


76 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:37 PM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes, the problems caused by drug smuggling are horrible. The problem for soldiers and governments are a little different from the problems caused to civilians back home, and here’s how.

Soldiers and governments (including both ours and Russia’s) generally do not want to profit from the drug trade or to use drugs to cause misery to their enemies. The problem for soldiers is that of weighing the importance of public affairs (getting along with those in a local, foreign populace) against the horrors caused by illegal drugs.

More specifically, a local populace involved in a drug trade might work against an antagonistic influence (against “our” enemy in their own country, whether “we” are the Russians or the Americans). So to disrupt their drug trade would be to cut off a potential ally in a war and to make another enemy of them. Such locals are often not very rich or literate and tend to see their trade as being benign and as being their only livelihood.

Accusations are fabricated in conspiracy stories against soldiers and governments by civilians (most often by fascists). It’s a difficult problem to solve.

As for the main national and cultural differences between the U.S.A. and Russia, the U.S.A. tries to influence other nations to suit U.S. interests. Russia generally does the same. But each does so under different conditions and with different methods to choose different kinds of allies.

At the end of the 1990s, I was honored to chat in person with each of a couple of former Russian commanders here, in America. I was only enlisted and not an officer, by the way. But as with most who’ve served, we only discussed funny personal situations of the past with no mentions of anything having to do with tactical defense. We laughed.

There was mutual admiration and relaxed comfort. In each case, onlooking Russians who had not served appeared to be angry about our friendly interactions. Some civilians just don’t understand. Why? For one, some of the information that they received has been different from what we of prior service learned. Also, we’d had very little freedom and only the choice of following orders while on duty. During those chats, we were here and free with no one having the authority to monitor or control what we said.


77 posted on 10/13/2015 8:58:18 PM PDT by familyop (You're fired.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Being a buffet slayer does not make one a warrior.


78 posted on 10/13/2015 9:02:09 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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