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Patron Shoots Armed Would-Be Robber Dead at Waterbury Cafe: Police
NBC ^ | 10/11/2015

Posted on 10/11/2015 6:17:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

An armed man was shot dead by a patron after the suspect tried robbing the Waterbury, Connecticut, cafe and the patrons inside, police said.

Police are investigating the fatal incident as a homicide.

Police received reports of gunfire at Cafe Azzurri at 500 Bank Street at about 2:30 a.m. Responding officers found a man with at least one gunshot wound at the cafe and pronounced him dead at the scene.

Witnesses told police that the would-be robber had come into the cafe wielding a gun and tried to steal from the business and the customers, police said.

However, a patron carrying a legally registered handgun confronted the suspect and fired his gun at least once, fatally shooting the man.

Police seized the patron's handgun and aren't releasing his name at this time. He is cooperating with authorities.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcconnecticut.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: armedrobber; banglist; connecticut; gunrights
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To: SeekAndFind

If the guy who did the shooting was white and the crook was black, he’s in trouble.
Black lives matter, not white ones.


41 posted on 10/11/2015 10:17:02 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Oh, yes—of course. Thanks.


42 posted on 10/11/2015 10:18:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: babygene

Yeah, I forgot to really even think that through. But when something is “investigated as a homicide” that implies that they think there may have been a crime.


43 posted on 10/11/2015 10:37:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Look up the legal term ‘justifiable homicide’. There is precision in legal terms not adhered to in everyday conversation.


44 posted on 10/11/2015 10:41:00 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

I don’t need to look it up—I know what it means, thank you.


45 posted on 10/11/2015 10:46:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind; nuconvert; All

“Wonder what the gun laws are like in Conn.”

“After the Sandy Hook massacre...December 14, 2012...Connecticut passed gun laws in April 2013 that made it among the most restrictive in the country...”

Yep, laws were changed 4 months after the massacre, 7 months before the official report was released.

The Report of the State’s Attorney for the Judicial District of Danbury on the Shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School was released on November 25, 2013.This was a summary, based on multitudinous in-depth reports of various aspects.
I’m no expert, but a couple of troubling details jumped out at me from this summary.

Remember the two guys in camo caught in the woods, then released?
Turns out, according to the report, they were employees of DEEP.
That’s the Connecticut Department of Energy and Environmental Protection.
Sounds like a state offshoot of EPA, right? So maybe they were merely conducting environmental studies? Collecting soil samples, something benign like that. And they heard gunshots and ran, for their own safety?
Huh.
Turns out DEEP, in addition to oversight of parks, wildlife, hunting and fishing licenses, etc., also regulates GUNS!!

DEEP is the state bureaucracy, agency or whatever, that instigates the creation or change of gun laws, then formulates those laws into specific, nitpicky regulations over EVERY ASPECT of gun sales and ownership in the state of Connecticut, in addition to oversight of energy and the environment.
Am I the only one that finds that weird?

By reading this report, and then some follow up googling of news articles, I learned DEEP subsequently PARTICIPATED in the SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION, AND THEN REWROTE STATE GUN REGULATIONS!!!

So, two DEEP agents are apprehended by local cops behind the school within minutes after Adam Lanza’s corpse hit the floor.
Then they’re quickly released after it’s determined they’re DEEP employees, so they couldn’t possibly have been involved in the shooting.

The State Attorney’s report notes, with thanks and no pfurther comment, that DEEP was involved ass-deep in the investigation of the shooting which produced the State Attorney’s report.
Let’s recollect the name of this agency once again: Department of Energy and Environmental Protection.
Environmentalists who just happened to be in the woods, not suspects because they’re environmentalists. But they work for an environmental agency with an interest in the outcome of mass murder.
An environmental / energy agency that rewrote the gun laws; an agency that enforces gun laws.
This begs an obvious question: WHO were the two DEEP agents who were apprehended, and were THESE INDIVIDUALS directly involved in the investigation, and if so, why? And in what way?

Also noted in the report, the Bushmaster Lanza allegedly used in shooting all the victims had a seriously corroded barrel. Thus, the gun “could not be ruled out” as the murder weapon, but neither was it conclusively determined to BE the murder weapon.


46 posted on 10/11/2015 11:14:05 AM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: null and void
"the PO-lice regard this as a murder"

The police are neither regarding nor investigating this as a "murder."

"Police are investigating the fatal incident as a homicide.

47 posted on 10/11/2015 11:19:10 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: null and void

You forgot the sarcasm tag. But in an effort to explain to others more clearly the reason for the seizure I offer the following.

The weapon was taken as part of the investigation as evidence in the commission of a homicide, in this particular case. Also to confirm whether it was lawfully owned by the party using it (i.e.- stolen or not) and if the mechanics of the weapon had been altered from factory specs. In the event of a court hearing it would be entered as an item of evidence. The ammunition remaining and magazine of a semi-auto as well as the expended cartridge case would also be included in that seizure. Ammunition might be examined to determine if it had been reloaded and whether the factory ballistic capabilities had been changed by the reloader. The seizure of evidence from a crime scene is S.O.P. Hopefully you will never be involved in a self-defense use of a firearm but knowing what will occur in the aftermath may justify your second purchase to avoid being defenseless until the weapon is returned after litigation, if any is forthcoming, has been completed.


48 posted on 10/11/2015 11:23:09 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (They're inside the wire!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Cafe Azzurri

Sounds like an Albanian coffee shop where they hang out, talk and play cards......

There's one near me but it's a "private" club........I don't trust Albanians

49 posted on 10/11/2015 11:26:14 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: SeekAndFind
"seized"

Presumably the police and the Waterbury state's attorneys office, treated the patron a little nicer that "seized the patron's handgun," as reported by the fifth-column NBC-Connecticut 'reporter.'

Otherwise, the patron should be cooperating with the police through and with the advice of his lawyer.

50 posted on 10/11/2015 12:13:26 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

I hope the first words out of the patron’s mouth when the cops showed up were “I was in fear for my life and now I am traumitized and I need to talk to my lawyer.”


51 posted on 10/11/2015 5:03:11 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ZULU; Da Coyote
Connecticut. The most unfriendly state toward guns and gun ownership.


52 posted on 10/11/2015 5:06:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: SeekAndFind

53 posted on 10/11/2015 5:11:13 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I wonder if the now deceased robber had a *permit* for his gun, and if the gun was *registered*?

They’ll run the good Samaritan through the wringer of public opinion ... the robber will end up as the *victim*.


54 posted on 10/11/2015 5:55:17 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: SeekAndFind

**... a well-known after-hours gambling club... **

Hmmmmmm. 2:30AM pizza made me wonder, what more there is to this story.

From comments at the Waterbury Republic site:

http://rep-am.com/news/local/913429.txt


55 posted on 10/11/2015 6:03:56 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: Daffynition

I think New Jersey is worst. Maryland, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, New Yawk and the state Obama was whelped in aren’t far behind.


56 posted on 10/11/2015 7:13:20 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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